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Skill Levels?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I'm wondering if anyone has a list of or a website that lists the exact definitions of skier levels 1 - 9. Someone posted a generalized list of these in the gear discussion section, but as i recall, one of the veteran members posted a very detailed list some time ago (years). I tried to search for it but recovered nothing. If anyone has a link to the thread or has a similar list i would be interested in reading it.
Thanks
GREG
post #2 of 22
Try this.
Skier levels
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Thats the one that someone posted in the gear section. There was a much more explanatory list someplace else... dunno where though.
I'll keep looking.
Later
GREG
post #4 of 22
Ratings are overrated.

Why do we have to rate everything?

We all rate ourselves every day when we look in the mirror.
post #5 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by Lars:
We all rate ourselves every day when we look in the mirror.
Amazingly, I'm always a 10, it's uncanny.
post #6 of 22
post #7 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by Lars:
Ratings are overrated.

Why do we have to rate everything?

We all rate ourselves every day when we look in the mirror.
It's a competitive thing. Do you golf? Do you have a handicap? WHY? Who cares what your score, or average score is compared to everyone else? Just go out and hit the ball and have fun.

All sarcasm aside, I think it actually goes to help our business as ski instructors a bit.... "I'm a level 9 and want to be a level 10, so I'm here for a lesson." (I actually got that one last year!). If we could get more people into recreational racing and could standardize a race course (impossible, but I'm going hypothetical here), then I think we could get more people into lessons because they would want to improve their times. Of course, it would probably help more if we could have 5 ski areas in every town and be able to ski when it's 80 degrees and sunny all summer long.

BTW, the mirror scares me. I probably rate my skiing so that I have something positive to say about myself.
post #8 of 22
Heluva,

If you find what you seek, please post it here, I'd like to check it out too.

JohnH,

Was the aspiring level 10 really a level 9, or just a mad shit-talker?
post #9 of 22
X-

It was a group of three who all claimed the same thing. Two were solid level 7s, one was a weaker 7. They thought that because they could make (what they thought was) a parallel turn and go fast down intermediate groomers (we're talking mid Adlantic skiing here!), and could survive a bump run, that they were God's gift to skiing. They didn't seem to realize that lack of speed control was a bad thing.
post #10 of 22
Quote:
posted by XDog:
Amazingly, I'm always a 10, it's uncanny.
Others go to 10, but I'm an 11.
post #11 of 22
I'll vouch for that, Bonni.
post #12 of 22
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post #13 of 22
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Originally posted by Bonni:
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(Weems rules) [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
oh. for a minute I thought you'd typed

Ween rules.

more's the pity for the Boognish.

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[ September 27, 2003, 06:17 PM: Message edited by: gonzostrike ]
post #14 of 22
the cow rules

I am particularly fond of his right nostril. :
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
Well I havent found what i was looking for, but the topics that Physics Man referred me to were close i think - Particularly the one from 2000. I like to think im a level 10 skier... but then i feel like i have so much more to learn or perfect that it cant be possible. I'm curious where I fit into the whole scheme of things i guess. Its not a terribly important that i know, but it would be interesting to find out. Coaches dont really bother with what level of a skier you are, and ive never had a lesson or skied with an instructor that really could help my skiing. I tend to stay with the race coaches if i need instruction. So if anyone has any ideas thatd be cool... if not ill continue my search.
Later
GREG
post #16 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by Bonni:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> posted by XDog:
Amazingly, I'm always a 10, it's uncanny.

Others go to 10, but I'm an 11.</font>[/quote]I wasn't referring to your DIN, lass.
post #17 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by HeluvaSkier:
[Q]Well I havent found what i was looking for, but the topics that Physics Man referred me to were close i think - Particularly the one from 2000. I like to think im a level 10 skier... but then i feel like i have so much more to learn or perfect that it cant be possible. I'm curious where I fit into the whole scheme of things i guess. Its not a terribly important that i know, but it would be interesting to find out. Coaches dont really bother with what level of a skier you are, and ive never had a lesson or skied with an instructor that really could help my skiing. I tend to stay with the race coaches if i need instruction. So if anyone has any ideas thatd be cool... if not ill continue my search.
Later
GREG [/Q]
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post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
I would love to have the opportunity to ski with you guys, but i have finals that week. I dont know how much cash im going to have either, cuz it looks like my team is going to nationals this year. That is an entire week in Maine in the spring (March 1 - 6 at Sugarloaf Maine). The school pays for everything accept food but on a college budget that gets expensive. My team mates and i might go to Jay for a few days after nationals though. I've never skied with anyone from epicski, but there are some very informative and talented skiers here so someday i hope to have that opportunity. I'm always wanting to learn new stuff so im sure it would be fun.
Later
GREG
post #19 of 22
Is this skill level chart used at all in the US?
post #20 of 22
Ced,
Short answer: No.

Long answer: (suitable for an off-line discussion)

S
post #21 of 22
Cedric - I agree with Fox, that no, this scale is not used in the USA. Personally, however, I like it much better than the scales used around here by recreational skiers.

In the past, we have had long threads about the scales we use, and I still feel that our scales bunch up skiers at the higher levels (7-8-9), whereas the one you posted seems to spread these people out more in the way I think it should be done. Now, if they would only fix the spelling errors on this chart - sheesh.

Thanks for posting it.

Tom / PM

PS - PSIA folks: I don't think Heluva is getting the answer that he is looking for when he started this thread, and I know that I didn't whan I posted the same question in a different thread.

I am looking for the page from a PSIA document that I have seen that lists very specific skills (ie, not terrain-based, or comfort-based) that are needed at each of the ATM levels. This scale is normally only used by US instructors, and is not meant for the average recreational skier because of the terminology employed. It was reproduced here on Epic a year or two ago, but now I can't find the blankety-blank thing. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #22 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by PhysicsMan:
Cedric - I agree with Fox, that no, this scale is not used in the USA. Personally, however, I like it much better than the scales used around here by recreational skiers.
You know, you could change about three words in Cedric's skill levels chart and have a history of my sexual skills level progression. Here are direct quotes from Cedric's charts with only a couple deletions, no additions.

LEVEL 1 You've skied at least a week, you've learned to turn, stop and ride the lifts.

LEVEL 2 You have at least 3 weeks under your belt. You still seek instruction, but aren't scared to venture off on your own. You are mastering the 'hockey stop'.

LEVEL 3 You are reaching the 'intermediate plateau', you happily ski all blue and some red runs, but narrow pistes, especially icey ones, cause some difficulty. You have almost mastered speed control and stopping distances. Tough red runs are skied with caution, with style and control at a premium.

LEVEL 4 You've broken through the 'Plateau' and are now experiencing new feelings and sensations. You have begun to appreciate the speed and excitement of skiing - it's a blast. Bumps are still a mystery.

[Unfortunately, my wife tells me I haven't progressed pass Level 4. Hence, I had to stop at this point.]
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