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post #91 of 98
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All good points. Very good points.I like the one about how Bode ski's a different ski in each race, GS or Super-G or a Slalom ski. Whoah, there you go....how about going from a Downhill ski to Slalom ski's.?? Wow.!! Good point right there.

Another good point on the person who ski's "both" would be twice as good at the end of the season.

I will stick to my 1 ski quiver.

Those years that I skied the RC4's I remember trying to make short turns and I remember trying to ski bumps with them too. Not good at either. Now, with the all-mountain ski I can do it all...well, only to the best of my ability.
post #92 of 98
Now that I have a GS, a SL, and an out-dated deep snow ski to add to my SG I still suck at bumps,  but I suck at a higher level.
post #93 of 98
I'm just getting caught up on this thread. Have you calibrated your phone by checking the speeds it says against something like your speedometer in your car?

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Originally Posted by freeski919 View Post

I'm trying to figure out where the condemnation of skiing at 45mph on 167's is coming from. I honestly don't see 45 as being all that fast. I ski Dynastar Contact 10's, which are 72 underfoot, and are 165 length. I always run a program on my phone which tracks my runs, speed included. I get up to 60mph routinely, and have maxed out at 72mph since I've been running this program. On a normal groomer day, i'm above 35mph about 40% of the time. I don't feel like my edge angles are excessive, or that I'm over taxing the ski's design. In fact, I feel that I get a better edge and the ski becomes more responsive as I get over 40mph.
post #94 of 98
     Originally Posted by MastersRacer View Post

I'm just getting caught up on this thread. Have you calibrated your phone by checking the speeds it says against something like your speedometer in your car?


I have checked against my car a few times.  I was quite surprised by how accurate both of my GPS units are (and how quickly they respond to speed changes).  Now of course there are points on any mountain where you may lose contact with the satellites so we're not replacing a speed gun by any stretch, but I'd say they're pretty good to within at least 2-3 mph.
post #95 of 98

When I've used GPS, just a couple of missed data points result in hyper speeds. If you can see graphs or evalute the numbers accurately you can see what data to throw out. Looking at a maximum and reporting that it is accurate speed is sketchy at best.

So is going 72 on a 165cm ski especially if it isn't in a race arena.


I've seen DH and SG skis hook up at speed in prepared race courses with disastrous results. Knee dislocations. Shoulder dislocations. The likelihood of hookup with a short, small radius ski on public terrain is significantly higher than on a speed ski in a race course and the results potentially more sudden and violent.

To qualify my opinion: Racing DH was my job for a few years when I was young. Coaching speed is one of my jobs now.

I'm pointing out the dangers involved so that newbies and wanna-be speed skiers reading this thread don't get the idea that going excessively fast on short, turny skis is in any way safe or recommended. Get the gear and training to ski safely at speed.

post #96 of 98
^^^^^ All good points, but the premise of the OP was actual "ski failure" due to speed.

And who said anything about 72mph on a 165 SL ski?  Maybe I missed that, but that would be totally insane.
post #97 of 98
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post

^^^^^ All good points, but the premise of the OP was actual "ski failure" due to speed.

And who said anything about 72mph on a 165 SL ski?  Maybe I missed that, but that would be totally insane.
 

freeski919 back on page 3 and quoted in post 93 above. Ghost alluded to 60 on a SL and you said: "In the real world an SL ski can be driven around 50mph without issue"

I simply disagree that SL skis are good for that kind of speed and chimed in when it began to sound like the accepted line in this thread was SL skis are suitable for SG and DH speeds.
post #98 of 98
Post #65 I enjoy the good company of MR saying: that ski just won't go that fast!

Not and keep its dynamics in tact. It would be a mad drift.
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