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post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
i know, there are a lot people   loving JH, and me and my family are ones of them.
however, since this season, i'll be very reluctant to  recommend anybody to come here.
reason is simple: prices

lift ticket $91, and this is high but wait
half day 74 bucks!!!! (sorry 73)

an hour ski lesson with college drop-out (exaggeration)  $190 (no exaggeration0

for example at snowbird you can ski for 56 and take a lesson for around 60-80 buccks

i know skiing  costs a lot of money, but these prices are out of mind
post #2 of 27
 While I appreciate your sticker shock, JH is not out of line with many other places price wise.  Sad but true. 

As for the lessons, I've met many ski instructors over the past few years and calling them "college drop out"'s is not how I would describe most of those I've met.
Edited by Trekchick - 2/18/10 at 8:45am
post #3 of 27
Yes JH can be very expensive. When we were there in January, it was commonly stated that skier traffic was off around 30%. Some counterpoints.

Our group did reservations through "Jackson Hole Central Reservations". They had discounts available on airline costs, room rentals and multi-day lift tickets. We stayed in a modest motel, in the Town of Jackson, that provided roundtrip transportation to and from the mountain. The total cost for six days of skiing  was in the range of $1200 per person ( flight, room and lift tickets ). Staying in town gives access to affordable eating.

Jackson also offers a full day group lesson for the rate you quoted for a 1 hour private. I know what I'd take! Your comment about the "dropout" is demeaning to many instructors who put a lot of effort into a lesson.
post #4 of 27

Whenever you have a big  mountain that is essentially out on it's own (JH, Steamboat), the prices always reflect that.  There's little competition. Where there are more mountains close together (other parts of CO, Utah), there be competition and so prices are more moderate.

We went to Utah this year, instead of Steamboat. While we loved the boat, we'll probably go back to Utah for our  next trip out west too.  It's cheaper, you can choose amoung several different mountains, it's easier to get to than Steamboat or JH from where we live.  Park City is pricey, but we didnt' stay in PC.
 

post #5 of 27
 It is pricey, but I felt like I have been spoiled by the lower prices at Alta/Bird, so maybe I wasn't the best judge.  I will say that I saw some uber-rich people at JH, which I haven't seen too many other places.
post #6 of 27
I agree that Jackson Hole has a high price tag. I went there several times for a weeks trip in highschool all the way from minnesota. How I afforded it without parental help beats me. However, I don't think that Jackson presents itself as a ski resort that everyone can enjoy. It's definitely the place you can go if you wanna dish out big money for just about everything. At alot of these bigs resorts employees aren't even able to afford to live near by. Take Aspen for example. Many "local employees" have large commutes to just go to work. In times likes these I could see how projections are off. People will obviously want to go somewhere else where their dollar can stretch a little more. But if you wanna dish it out, Jackson Hole has amazing skiing. Amazing.
post #7 of 27
Thread Starter 
did you see this

'an hour ski lesson with college drop-out (EXAGGERATION)  $190 (no exaggeration)'

didn't mean to  demise the fellows instructors, just to point out the outrageous price.

obviously, I'll  go every season to JH no matter what............it's unique, beutiful, and first of all: it's.........the  JH
post #8 of 27
JH is still on my bucket list...and I will definitely get there one of these years.

With a son in college, and a daughter a year away from college, I don't have an unlimited ski budget. It's a stretch for me to get a dozen or so days skiing the east, along with a week long trip out west in a season.

Also, I generally have to plan my week well in advance.

The cost, convenience, quality, and dependable snow make it very hard to pass up the Cottonwood Canyons. Mostly the snow. As close as a guarantee of great conditions as you can get.

If JH had close to the same chance of great snow conditions, the extra cost wouldn't phase me. I know it would be worth it. Although, with Grand Targhee nearby, it sounds like I could count on finding good snow if by chance I happened to hit JH on a bad week. Maybe next year....
post #9 of 27
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Originally Posted by kubagr View Post

did you see this

'an hour ski lesson with college drop-out (EXAGGERATION)  $190 (no exaggeration)'

didn't mean to  demise the fellows instructors, just to point out the outrageous price.

obviously, I'll  go every season to JH no matter what............it's unique, beutiful, and first of all: it's.........the  JH

If you go to jackson Hole to learn to ski, well, you're doin' it wrong !!!

The trick is learn to ski really well then go to Jackson Hole for the best hardcore skiing south of AK.
post #10 of 27
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post




If you go to jackson Hole to learn to ski, well, you're doin' it wrong !!!

The trick is learn to ski really well then go to Jackson Hole for the best hardcore skiing south of AK.
 

How about going to JH to learn to ski stuff that you haven't had a chance to ski before? A couple of hours of quality instruction could  be a good investment in getting the most out of your expensive trip.

I got a great bargain at Alta this year. Signed up for a group off trail clinic. Ended up being the only person in my group. Got a 2 1/2 hour private with a terrific French Canadien woman (Sylvie) who's been teaching there for 20+ years. For $62 (plus $20 tip) it ended up being the smartest thing I did. Got me skiing much more terrain in a much more relaxed fashion; which significantly improved the quality of my trip.

My advice - sign up for a group clinic on a day where the crowds are low. Good chance you'll end up  with a very small group.
post #11 of 27
I was being facetious.
post #12 of 27
Thread Starter 
just show me YOUR skills alive

i was looking for ski lesson for my wife

i canGIVE YOU  some lessons if you wish..........
post #13 of 27
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i can GIVE YOU  some lessons if you wish..........

Can you teach me how to fact-check???

www.jacksonhole.com/lessons-guides/adults/ski-class-lessons.html

The highest price I see on this page IS $190... but that is a full day lesson INCLUDING a lift ticket.

You paid $190 for a one hour lesson for your wife? You should find out what THAT included.
post #14 of 27
 I just got back from 4 days at Jackson.

While the lift tickets are pricey, lodging in town is reasonable and the bus system works better than the one in Utah. 

I don't think that Jackson Hole will ever compete with L/BCC in pricing, but the town sure beats Sandy.

Is Jackson really any more expensive than Summit Country or Vail (without a pass), Aspen, T-Ride, Mammoth, Whistler? 

Although I didn't take a lesson, the instructors I came across were really good skiers......
post #15 of 27
Almost all of the large resorts in colorado have insane prices, 90+ for copper steamboat winter park breckenridge keystone beaver creek vail ect... and its pretty much impossible to find a deal for steamboat, only one theyve had lately is the pow pow platter, 99 for a day at copper steamboat and winter park, i only ski the boat when i can find a good deal on tickets
post #16 of 27
Thread Starter 
did not pay
the page you are showing is for GROUP  teaching

i was talking about individual lessons
post #17 of 27
Thread Starter 
I was being facetious

bantering???
post #18 of 27
 Why, oh, why must people with unrealistic expectations complain about reality? Why, when called out, do so many internet citizens turn into pugilistic toughs when confronted with their own silliness?

Prices are not a secret. Go where you can accept the prices. Complain about stuff that isn't in your control. Be an adult.
post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by retroEric View Post

 Why, oh, why must people with unrealistic expectations complain about reality? Why, when called out, do so many internet citizens turn into pugilistic toughs when confronted with their own silliness?

Prices are not a secret. Go where you can accept the prices. Complain about stuff that isn't in your control. Be an adult.
 

What others complain about is not in your control, so why are you complaining about it?

post #20 of 27
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Originally Posted by billyymc View Post
What others complain about is not in your control, so why are you complaining about it?


Zing! You can go tell your wife you scored an internet point today.
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by kubagr View Post

lift ticket $91, and this is high but wait
half day 74 bucks!!!! (sorry 73)

an hour ski lesson with college drop-out (exaggeration)  $190 (no exaggeration0

for example at snowbird you can ski for 56 and take a lesson for around 60-80 buccks

i know skiing  costs a lot of money, but these prices are out of mind

I wait long enough for others to counter the OP, basically shoot him to pieces! ;-)

If I were to spring for an hour of PRIVATE lesson, I would only do so with a KNOWN instructor to get my money's worth. If I'm taking my chances with an unknown instructor, I'd rather do that on a group lesson rate.

As for Snowbird/Alta being less expensive than JH, we all know that. My home mountain cost only $25-35 for lift ticket. What's the point?

YES, the full price at JH are expensive. But then, JH isn't known for being inexpensive even within the expensive sport of skiing! So I don't find the listed price out of line.

As many others who somehow managed to ski there without robbing a bank (but wait, I DID rob a bank, but that's a seperate issue), I did it by looking for deals. There were soooo many deals it seems only the very rich and the very ... (fill in the blank) pay full prices!

I WOULD continue to recommend JH to others. I would also point out it's not cheap. So some smart deal searching will be very worthwhile.
post #22 of 27
I also just got back from Jackson Hole and to be honest the instructors there did not look like great skiers. Ya there were definitely some good ones, but for the most part the instructors were just above average in my point of view. I saw a lot of vadelers and others with not the greatest technique. IMO I could have outskied most of them.
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Originally Posted by manchester81 View Post

 I just got back from 4 days at Jackson.

While the lift tickets are pricey, lodging in town is reasonable and the bus system works better than the one in Utah. 

I don't think that Jackson Hole will ever compete with L/BCC in pricing, but the town sure beats Sandy.

Is Jackson really any more expensive than Summit Country or Vail (without a pass), Aspen, T-Ride, Mammoth, Whistler? 

Although I didn't take a lesson, the instructors I came across were really good skiers......

 
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by DropKickMurphy View Post




How about going to JH to learn to ski stuff that you haven't had a chance to ski before? A couple of hours of quality instruction could  be a good investment in getting the most out of your expensive trip.

I got a great bargain at Alta this year. Signed up for a group off trail clinic. Ended up being the only person in my group. Got a 2 1/2 hour private with a terrific French Canadien woman (Sylvie) who's been teaching there for 20+ years. For $62 (plus $20 tip) it ended up being the smartest thing I did. Got me skiing much more terrain in a much more relaxed fashion; which significantly improved the quality of my trip.

My advice - sign up for a group clinic on a day where the crowds are low. Good chance you'll end up  with a very small group.
 

Definitely agree with that last statement. Was dumping at Squaw Valley two years ago and visibility was vertigo. Signed up for a 1 hr group lesson, got a private... also being one of the only people who signed up for a lesson at all.
post #24 of 27
JH is expensive... no doubt.   If you are looking for the most bang-for-your-buck then its the wrong location to choose.   Most of the locals we talked to there said that the smart folks who lived in town take up employment with the resort instead of spending the $1,000+ on a season pass.

Having said that, JH's prices aren't that out of whack with CO front range properties this year.   Breck/Keystone tix were $80+ this season and Vail/Beaver were $90+.  The season pass costs were WAY more reasonable, though at $400-$600.

Utah seems to the best 'deal' if you're buying daily lift tix.  CO is the spot to go for season tix
post #25 of 27
Many facts are way way off....I think you're just pissed for some reason and not telling the whole truth.

All Day Tram & Chairs – $72

Alta/Snowbird Combined All-Day – $85

Can't really compare this one because for $91 you get the tram @ JH
All Day Chairs Only – $62
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Originally Posted by kubagr View Post

i know, there are a lot people   loving JH, and me and my family are ones of them.
however, since this season, i'll be very reluctant to  recommend anybody to come here.
reason is simple: prices

lift ticket $91, and this is high but wait
half day 74 bucks!!!! (sorry 73)

an hour ski lesson with college drop-out (exaggeration)  $190 (no exaggeration0

for example at snowbird you can ski for 56 and take a lesson for around 60-80 buccks

i know skiing  costs a lot of money, but these prices are out of mind
post #26 of 27
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Originally Posted by k2skier View Post

Many facts are way way off....I think you're just pissed for some reason and not telling the whole truth.

All Day Tram & Chairs – $72

Alta/Snowbird Combined All-Day – $85

Can't really compare this one because for $91 you get the tram @ JH
All Day Chairs Only – $62


 

Nobody pays window price in utah. Discount tickets are all over the place. This isn't the case in Jackson.
post #27 of 27
My group of 5 friends  has been going to JH for 9 years now.  There are excellent deals to be had if you make your reservations early.  This year my personal cost was $504.92 for 7 nights lodging including 5 lift tickets.  The place we stayed at has a Kitchen so we save a lot on food.   I can't beat that skiing Alta/Snowbird.  Right now the ski package at Days Inn in Midvale is $119 per night including lift ticket and transportation to/from Alta/Snowbird. 
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