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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I'll be in park City starting next Monday for 5 ski days.  The temperature is supposed to be highs in the low 30's.

I have warm, cold and universal hydrocarbon wax plus warm and cold

Molybdenum FluoroMax wax.  All list 25 degrees+ for the warm, (except of course the universal).  I will not have my iron with me so I was going to just wax before leaving home.  Which wax would be the best to use, universal or one of the cold waxes?  I figure the warm will be a problem in the morning so I shouldn't use those.

post #2 of 11
Generally, you are better off having colder wax on warmer snows than warmer waxes with colder snows. So err colder. You can overlay with warmer wax by rubbing and corking if needed.

For 5 days of skiing I'd want the option to hot wax and would bring an iron. If the snow stays soft, it may not be necessary.

As a general note, you can always ship supplies (including liquids) to and from a location if you don't have luggage space.

From past experience and reports, using the Briko-Maplus Universal or Race base Medium (better and at least twice as durable) would be a good 'one size fits all' for UT/CO Tahoe trips.
post #3 of 11
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Originally Posted by mmpotash View Post

I'll be in park City starting next Monday for 5 ski days.  The temperature is supposed to be highs in the low 30's.

Those are village air temps, the mountain is colder, and the snow is, during most of the day, even colder than that.

I would ignore those (unless you're planning on playing only on the lower mountain), and use something that can deal with both new snow (medium humidity) and old snow (low humidity).     My pick: Moly Fluoromax cold with lotsa brushing.
post #4 of 11
I got back last week and skied in similar conditions.  Just use a good universal wax and you will be fine.  It may not be optimal, but you aren't racing, are you?    You can always buy an iron and take it with you, if your wax doesn't last.
post #5 of 11
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  It may not be optimal, but you aren't racing, are you?  

If it is optimal,    "traverse"     "cat walk"    "long runout"  are no longer dirty words.
post #6 of 11
I've tried several Universal and Cold/Warm waxes in Co/Ut conditions and have found the Briko-Maplus 'Race Base Medium' from Slidewright/ Alpinord to be the best choice IMHO. The glide in temps from -5f cold winter conditions to melting snow spring conditions has been great. I also use it for Masters Race Training and Beer League Races. Durability of this harder - higher melt point wax is also a big plus. As comprex states 'cat walks' and 'long runouts' are no longer a challenge.
post #7 of 11
I just returned from Utah for 4 days. I waxed before I left after noting the temps were in the mid 20s. I used blue (+10-20) Slik and it lasted 3 days of powder and firm underneath. On the fourth day, I used Dominator Rocket, a universal rub-on (absolutely the best I have found for Spring slush) and corked it with the enclosed foam cork.

I live in NW Colorado which has been the coldest in the nation more than a few times. I have found that if I try to match the temps with the wax, I tend to stick a lot. So I wax colder and don't have a problem. I glide better than most and the skis don't stick. Unless it is -20, and anything will stick.

I have been using Slik for 20 years and have found it the easiest wax to work with and it glides the best. The yellow is the best warm wax that I have encountered. With an underlay of yellow and an overlay of Rocket, Spring skiing is a joy!
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
After asking Marc at Racewax.com, I decided on the cold Molybdenum FluoroMax.  He thought it would work fine when the day gets warmer and would last longer then the hydrocarbon universal.
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by mmpotash View Post

After asking Marc at Racewax.com, I decided on the cold Molybdenum FluoroMax.  He thought it would work fine when the day gets warmer and would last longer then the hydrocarbon universal.

All your waxes are from Dr. D?  I've only played a little bit with his fluoro universal.


Can you do an experiment for us:   do 5 or so cycles of base prep/hot scrape with his HC warm on -one ski- ?
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post




All your waxes are from Dr. D?  I've only played a little bit with his fluoro universal.


Can you do an experiment for us:   do 5 or so cycles of base prep/hot scrape with his HC warm on -one ski- ?

 

I did this prior to the season and skiied Utah a couple weeks ago.  Using warm hydrocarbon from racewax.com works fine. I used 4 cycles but did not scrape till the last one.
post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by mmpotash View Post

I did this prior to the season and skiied Utah a couple weeks ago.  Using warm hydrocarbon from racewax.com works fine. I used 4 cycles but did not scrape till the last one.

Right, gotcha.    

For the next trip, would you care to do it again,  on just -one- ski of the pair?
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