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I hate POV footage

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Is it just me or does POV footage tend to give:

1) no sense of speed
2) no sense of incline
3) no sense of technique
4) no sense of mis en scene

I guess if it is your own footage it can hep you relive your exploits. For me, I think it is almost always pretty blah
post #2 of 10
What about POV footage from a wingman behind a lead skier?

Would that give you mise-en-scène?


I've been arguing for shot-from-behind video for years.
post #3 of 10
aschick,
I kinda agree with you. My bigger bug-bear of modern sports TV is the insistance of zooming in as close as possible to the "action" to the point that when something does happen, you miss it, cause it was outside of the tiny frame that was being broadcast.
Yes, it's great that teh technology is there to show the details so well, but save those details for the replays.

e.g. in soccer & tennis they like to get a good shot of a player's face, or at least of just one player filling the screen (in the case of soccer) - that way you miss what is actually happening around them.
I noticed it yesterday on the boardercross - at one stage they had a great tight shot of one boarder, who proceeded to fall. But because the cameraman was panning where he expected the boarder to go to, all we saw was empty slopes then a quick cut to another shot. It wasn't until the replay that we saw how one boarder (just a yard behind) had swerved and got past.
post #4 of 10
Even though I just bought a VIO 1.5, I do tend to agree.  There are a lot of baaad POV clips out there.  Some are pretty good though and I'd rather have the option of seeing some decent POV skiing waist deep pow through the trees than seeing nothing at all.

Some of the POV shots in TGR films skiing sick lines in Valdez are epic and there's no substitute unless you can get there yourself.  There are some great POV shots going all the way back to Glen Plake's big noggin cam in The Blizzard of Ahhhs.

Unfortunately, most of mine will probably end up sucking, but the helmet cam is good if you're running around with a bunch of loons who never want to slow down while you fiddle with a hand held camera.  I got mine to hopefully record some epic adventures at Monarch Powdercats next month.  I'm sure I'll end up with something not to nauseating, but I do agree that many "amateur" POV clips are pretty dreadful.

And BTW - I disagree with your points #1, #2, and #3.  Maybe #4, if I knew what the hell that meant.
post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
Yes, I need to qualify that. When it is properly intercut with other shots it can be effective. However most of what I see these days is either all POV or extended shots in which I can barely tell how much vertical has been skied.

They put some POV cameras on the boarders in the Olympic cross event. Whenever they cut to that I wanted them to cut back to he actual race.
post #6 of 10


The best POV I've seen starts at about 4:30. If you like AC/DC it is even better. As far as shot-from-behind, I think that would be hard to do in shots like this.

Downhill Racer has some pretty amazing shot-from-behind scenes and is now available on DVD and through NetFlix.
post #7 of 10
Here is a POV film that will change your mind.  Just a classic "Nervous Star Chute" by Adventure Film Works.   Just about the funniest POV ever made, and it has a plot.

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May10.mov
post #8 of 10
Thread Starter 
LOL. Yes, that's the first footage that captures my mental state when attempting something I shouldn't be doing. Complete with the Pink Floyd.
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Here is a POV film that will change your mind.  Just a classic "Nervous Star Chute" by Adventure Film Works.   Just about the funniest POV ever made, and it has a plot.

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May10.mov
post #9 of 10


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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post

Here is a POV film that will change your mind.  Just a classic "Nervous Star Chute" by Adventure Film Works.   Just about the funniest POV ever made, and it has a plot.

http://www.adventurefilmworks.com/Videos/May10.mov
 
post #10 of 10
Most POV shots make my neck hurt ... I'm constantly trying to look UP with the majority of POV camera angles. 

Who looks at their ski tips when they're skiing?!?  Yet that's what a lot of POV helmet-cams wind up capturing.  I think it would be a lot more realistic (and inspiring) if the camera was angled up by 5 or 10 degrees (maybe more?)

Someone recently posted a boot-cam video of a high-speed GS run that I thought had a lot more sense of speed and actually a better viewing angle of the trail and surrounding terrain.  I'll update with the link if I can find the video.
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