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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Going on business trip to US, first time in winter season, finally!
After the trip I'm taking a week vacation March 6-14 to enjoy skiing.

Browsed the net and did some preliminary planning.
I hope to get your comments and advices before buying the tickets.

Jackson Hole is my favorite so far. Inspiring mountain reviews, nice snow&weather stats for March,
not so expensive, attractive backcountry programs.

I'm intermediate/advanced skier (level 7-8 in JH ski level assessment), prefer off-piste,
powder, trees, backcountry.

Looking for budget lodging options near the slopes or with free shuttle to the mointain.
Maybe a bed in a bunk room at http://www.thehostel.us
Mostly focused on skiing, apres-ski is secondary.

Also if anyone is skiing in JH on that week, I will be happy to meet and make some turns together.
post #2 of 11
Let me first say that I love Jackson Hole.  I have skied their for the last 9 consecutive years with a great group of friends. We go to JH either the last week in January or first week in Feb.  The last few years we have been missing the big powder dumps but we usually get something. We just got back.  On Friday Feb 12 we had some excellent over the knee dry powder on various locations on the mountain.

As you probably know March 6-14 is a little late.  This will definitely be spring skiing.  I have talked to a few tourists on the lifts that have skied JH in March and I have not meet one of them that liked it.  JH has a lot of southern exposure.  From what I have been told, the snow heats up fast in the morning and gets real mash potatoes texture pretty fast. Skiing in the afternoon is a,  what is the right word, mushy.

This year the snowfall at JH has been 60% of normal.  Then again the entire west coast has been on the low side.   You may want to consider higher altitudes like Loveland.  I have no idea what Loveland's snow depth is like.  You need to do your research this year.  Hopefully other bears here will give you good advice.

Snowing here in the Catskills (upstate New York state)  right now.  3-6 expected.   got to go to work
post #3 of 11
In March, I'm looking at Tahoe. You get a ton of resorts, a better than average chance of a significant snowfall and pow day(s), and lots of apres ski options as well.
post #4 of 11
God knows I love Jackson Hole. It does face to the east and south, so spring conditions can be expected. Bob Peters , Skiing In Jackson and Tetonpowderjunkie live there and any thoughts they choose to share would rule.

Consider staying in the 49er in the town of Jackson, and, walking to anywhere in the village is easy. Free shuttle to and from the mountain ( about 25 minutes) but the town has a western USA charm. Teton Village is nice, but, one vote for the town.
post #5 of 11
I've stayed at the 49er - nice place, inexpensive, outdoor hottub, easy walk to the rest of town, free shuttle to the slopes.
I've skied there on Gaper Day (ie, April 1) and the snow near the base was rather mashed-potato, but even so the conditions were great.
Regarding "off-piste, powder, trees, backcountry" - there's a ton of that at JH.  Somewhere around here, Bob Peters has a nice travel guide to the slopes that you should read.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hello All!
Thanks for the advices!

Yes, I've read Bob's guide and really hope to get a comment from him or Tetonpowderjunkie.

I was considering Tahoe from beginning, as it's close to our business location in Bay Area.
But I'm afraid it will be too warm there, even now the highs are around 50, chances of raining.

I guess the lodging choice would depend on whether I will find someone to share a room with.

The other thought is that skiing alone for 8 days in one place might be too much,
so I'm also thinking of split them between JH and Alta, since I would have flight connection in SLC anyway.
That's probably a decision that can be made in JH depending on snow conditions and on whether I will find some 
friends to ski together in JH.
post #7 of 11
Hi, danila.

Yours is a question that has gone 'round and 'round on Epic for years.  Personally, March is just about my favorite time of year to ski here.  I've had a lot of my very best powder days - ever - during March.  I've skied with lots of Epic folks during March and they've all seemed to have a very good time.

It's true that our mountain faces east and our base elevation is pretty low.  That means the sun really does affect our mountain more during March than a lot of areas that have a higher base elevation and a different aspect. 

Personally, though, I actually LIKE that about our mountain.  It means that if the sun is out, some of the runs are just starting to warm in the sun during the majority of the day.  If you know our mountain - and it doesn't take TOO long to figure out that the sunny side of most of the runs is on skier's left and the shaded side if on skier's right - you can work your way around the hill and enjoy really good conditions throughout most of the day.

I just wanted to say that I don't consider March 6-14 anything like too late to ski at Jackson Hole.  I absolutely love skiing here that time of year.

If you come visit, maybe I can arrange for you to meet up with a young woman friend of ours (Russian native) who is very active with the local Russian Club. 
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hello Bob!

Thanks a lot, now I feel much more confident about snow conditions in JH on those dates.

Still unsure about lodging.
49er looks like a good option, but the rates for single occupancy start from $62,
while the hostel declares $36 http://www.thehostel.us/id2.html
I don't need many amenities, just a convenient transfer to the mountain.
What would you recommend?

Also I'm interested in taking some ski class lessons and guided BC tours.
The description on the website looks attractive.

May I guess the Russian native is Tatiana? It would be interesting to meet with her.
I have to admit I'm not very sociable, but fan of skiing,
so the most important is that skiing together is comfortable and interesting
for each other and that might be unrelated to nationality, sex, age etc. :)
post #9 of 11
 I agree with Bob about March.  It can be great skiing, powder and corn on the same day.  Our lessons and guide service are great!  You will have a good time in either program.  I'm biased of course because I am a full time instructor at JH.  I would stay as cheap as possible and ride the bus.  I ride the bus every day and feel sorry for folks with arm loads of skis, poles, and boots.  You can rent a ski slot at JH sports for $10/day and avoid this hassle.  It's $3/day if you are renting or demoing from them.  I think you can get 2 pairs in the slot.  I would consider doing this and taking my boots home with me at night.  I would also look at the super 8 or motel 6 as it has just been redone and is cheap.  I can get you a 10% discount on any purchace at JH Sports, including rental and demos.  PM me for details.  You will have a great trip!
post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by danila View Post

Hello Bob!

Thanks a lot, now I feel much more confident about snow conditions in JH on those dates.

Still unsure about lodging.
49er looks like a good option, but the rates for single occupancy start from $62,
while the hostel declares $36 http://www.thehostel.us/id2.html
I don't need many amenities, just a convenient transfer to the mountain.
What would you recommend?

Also I'm interested in taking some ski class lessons and guided BC tours.
The description on the website looks attractive.

May I guess the Russian native is Tatiana? It would be interesting to meet with her.
I have to admit I'm not very sociable, but fan of skiing,
so the most important is that skiing together is comfortable and interesting
for each other and that might be unrelated to nationality, sex, age etc. :)

If you're coming in solo, that price at the HostelX is pretty hard to beat.  I *like* the hostel a great deal, but it's important that you understand that it's not exactly a quiet building.  The rooms are relatively small and everything in the building is made of wood without a whole lot of carpeting or soundproofing.  That means that as soon as one person in the building wakes up, puts his ski boots on, and starts clomping around the room or the stairs, you're probably going to hear it.  If sleeping in a quiet hotel room is important to you, you want to think twice about the hostel.

Aside from that, the place is great.  I love the longtime-ski-hostel vibe there, the game room, the ski room, the gathering places where you'll meet people from all over the world, the location (you can easily walk to the lifts and ski back to the hotel), and the PRICE.  You would definitely meet other skiers if you stay there - the layout of the place really encourages folks to meet each other.

Watch out for the locals, though.  We have the most condescending locals of any ski resort according to this: http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/88466/most-condescending-locals-jackson-hole-wyoming-from-skiing

The ski lessons are excellent.  If you're thinking about those, you should pm tetonpwdrjunkie and learn about the upper-level group lessons he does (or a private).  The upper group lessons can be a great deal pricewise if you can manage to hook up with him as your instructor. If you're traveling alone, one very nice thing about a group lesson is that you can meet other skiers in your ability level

The guided backcountry tours are outstanding, assuming the conditions are good, but they are pretty pricey (same cost as a private lesson).

It is Tatiana that I was talking about.  Do you actually know her (small world)?  I just ran into her last night and she would be thrilled to help welcome a fellow Russian learn to Jackson Hole.  If you pm me with a private email address, I can pass it on to her.
post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hello Bob!

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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

If you're coming in solo, that price at the HostelX is pretty hard to beat.  I *like* the hostel a great deal, but it's important that you understand that it's not exactly a quiet building.  The rooms are relatively small and everything in the building is made of wood without a whole lot of carpeting or soundproofing.  That means that as soon as one person in the building wakes up, puts his ski boots on, and starts clomping around the room or the stairs, you're probably going to hear it.  If sleeping in a quiet hotel room is important to you, you want to think twice about the hostel.

I don't mind being woken up early in the morning by someone clomping in ski boots. I love that sound.
What I would mind are wild drunk parties all nights long, but I hope it's not allowed :)

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Aside from that, the place is great.  I love the longtime-ski-hostel vibe there, the game room, the ski room, the gathering places where you'll meet people from all over the world, the location (you can easily walk to the lifts and ski back to the hotel), and the PRICE.  You would definitely meet other skiers if you stay there - the layout of the place really encourages folks to meet each other.

Yes, hope I'll love it too. That was my impression as well, that in this place I have good chances to find a crew to ski together.

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Watch out for the locals, though.  We have the most condescending locals of any ski resort according to this: http://www.epicski.com/forum/thread/88466/most-condescending-locals-jackson-hole-wyoming-from-skiing
 

Do'h! Somehow I feel irony in your writing ;)
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The ski lessons are excellent.  If you're thinking about those, you should pm tetonpwdrjunkie and learn about the upper-level group lessons he does (or a private).  The upper group lessons can be a great deal pricewise if you can manage to hook up with him as your instructor. If you're traveling alone, one very nice thing about a group lesson is that you can meet other skiers in your ability level

This nice thing is one of my motivations for it.
The others are that the instructor usually shows the most interesting places on the resort I would hardly find on my own
and it's always a pleasure to learn something new.
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The guided backcountry tours are outstanding, assuming the conditions are good, but they are pretty pricey (same cost as a private lesson).
Rather expensive, yes, but I don't think I'll ever be crazy enough go for backcountry without a guide I can trust
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It is Tatiana that I was talking about.  Do you actually know her (small world)?  I just ran into her last night and she would be thrilled to help welcome a fellow Russian learn to Jackson Hole.  If you pm me with a private email address, I can pass it on to her.
Google makes the world smaller :) I didn't know Tatiana before, but will be happy to get acquainted.
I've sent you my address
Edited by danila - 2/19/10 at 11:01am
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