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Dalbello Kryptons for racing?

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I need a pair of boots for work (NASTAR Pacesetter at Okemo). The heels on my old Technica Icons are so worn they don't fit properly in my Atomic bindings. I keep my my race snowboard and hardboots (Head Statos Pros) in the start shack but it's a pain to switch boots and back again when I need to take down the courses. A number of top snowboard racers use Dalbello Krypton ski boots instead of the traditional hardboots (Head, Deeluxe, UPZ).  I've given thought to getting a pair of Kryptons that I could use for both skis and board but I wonder if they'll have too much forward flex to use for racing. I also have a pair of Lange WC plug boots for most of my racing but for pacesetting on weekends I wonder if I could get away with Kryptons. Any thoughts?
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 I am as big of a fan of the Krypton as anyone but I am sure the Langes would be better. Try some runs back to back with the Langes and the Kryptons and see what the difference is. While the Flexon (in years way past) was a pretty good boot in the speed events like downhill and the Krypton is based on the Flexon design, no one skied it in the technical events, that should tell you something. 
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Thanks Phil.  I don't have a chance to demo the Kryptons.  I guess some of the Full Tilt models would be similar.

I'll continue to use the Langes for races but was hoping I could get away with a dual-use boot for pacesetting.  Interesting that the Flexon was used in speed events.  I didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by patmoore View Post

Thanks Phil.  I don't have a chance to demo the Kryptons.  I guess some of the Full Tilt models would be similar.

I'll continue to use the Langes for races but was hoping I could get away with a dual-use boot for pacesetting.  Interesting that the Flexon was used in speed events.  I didn't know that.


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My $0.02 on the Dalbello Kryptons (and their near-clones from Full Tilt) for modern racing:

The old Raichle Flexon worked well for long-length, long-sidecut ski technique, and was especially effective in speed events (e.g. Bill Johnson).  I can think of only one technical skier, back in the day, who used Flexons and did well: Vreni Schneider, whose "brute force" technique in slalom and GS was simply awesome, in its day.  She used her strength to overcome the shortcomings of the boots, for sure.

But with modern racing setups, I think that the progressive flex characteristics of the Flexon technology, as resurrected by Dalbello and Full Tilt, wouldn't be conducive to working well with modern racing equipment, which is far more hair-trigger in its reaction and needs a boot that provides almost-instantaneous input and feedback.  The Krypton/Full Tilt has a slower, smoother feel, which is awesome for freeskiing and moguls (i.e. what most skiers like to do), and while it could work in the speed events, to a point, modern racing technique and equipment isn't in the same ballpark these days.  Dalbello recognizes this, which is why the Proton 15 is their race-oriented boot offering: a classic, four-buckle overlap boot.
post #6 of 9
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Thanks Songfta.  I'll stick with my Langes for technical events.  For informal racing it would be nice to be able to hop back and forth from skis to board but maybe it's not practical. I did try on a pair of Krypton Pros yesterday and would have demoed them but the snow was so deep and wet that I didn't want to risk the knees (tore an ACL three weeks ago)

I also tried on Lange's new 130.  Lot of buzz about that boot.
post #7 of 9
 I have platnuimed on kryptons before but with that said there are better boots out there for racings.

If I get more into bum racing next year what ever plug foot fits my foot best will be on my foot while I am on GS/SL skis I ll still freeski the Kryptons.
post #8 of 9
Is this for NASTAR or a World Cup Downhill?

You can race NASTAR in Krypton Pros.  If you want quicker response, add a booster strap.

If you are looking for a boot that you can race in AND board, the Langes aren't going to work.  Obviously the Kryptons will because you see people doing it.

Master Boot Fitter Brent Amsbury states "Just insert the provided forward lean shims and the Krypton can be made to feel pretty racy in case a Nastar race course is on the menu".

At http://modernskiracing.com/2007BootReview.php

Ken
I race NASTAR in Kryptons
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys.  You've given me a lot to think about.
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