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Weighting Skis

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
At this point, I'm linking my turns fairly well, but I'm weighting my skis around 70/30% (70 on the outside ski). I'm also finding that I'm skidding to shed speed rather than moving to the next turn. Are there drills I should be doing to move more weight to the inside ski and get both edges working, or is the 70/30 a reasonable approach. I ski mostly pp with some icy conditions and I'm a flat out BEGINNER. When the rythm is right, I'm not having too much problem in the transition, but now and again its not as smooth as I want it.
post #2 of 12
You mention you are making linked turns. Are they wedge turns, wedge cristies or open parallel. If you are not sure (don't know the lingo) describe the position of the skis as you turn.

Since you are say you are a beginner, I would guess you are proably making wedge turns or wedge Christies in which case,
At this stage of the game I would say 70/30 is ok. The best thing you can do as far as exercises is get some miles on the slopes. Maybe have someone (ski pro or someone with some instructing background) take a look and make sure you are not creating any bad habits and just go out and have fun. By skiing more your body will develop some muscle memory.

As far as speed control, some skidding is fine. Try letting your skis continue to turn up the hill some until you are at the speed you want to be at before starting into your new turn. Let gravity and the hill slow you down. It's much less work.
post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
The skis are tracking fairly parallel. LOL..of course this is on greens. I'm definitely not in a wedge.
post #4 of 12
Hi Beginner:I think dechan offers some good advice.I also think you are motivated to the point where you might want to take some responsibility for your continued progress. That means lessons, but they can be expensive.

Along with your lessons,I want to suggest you purchase Lito Tejada-Flores' new book "Breakthrough on the New Skis." It will cost about $18.00 including S&H and can easily be ordered through this webiste by returning to the home page and clicking on ski shop. Once there scroll down to amazon.com. They are very good and your credit card is secure when ordering from them.

I think as you read the book you will find that Lito deals with a lot of the issues that you are now facing, such as skidding and the proper weighting of your skis etc.

If you don't own a skiing instruction book, this is the one to own. Lito also has a web site:breakthroughonskis.com
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the tips. I most certainly believe in qualified instruction! I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. LOL...that's my first stop on Saturday and it won't be my first lesson. Just looking for tips with my new obsession.
post #6 of 12

The skidding may not be related to your pressure control. Too much of a stiff downhill leg will induce skidding by pushing the CM uphill. It may still feel like you have a heavily weighted downhill ski but in actual fact your uphill ski may actually be holding you up as the downhill ski is pushed away with a stiff lower leg.

Try lightening the uphill ski and flexing the downhill leg so as to bring the CM over the skis more. Check your basic body position in relation to the terrain you are skiing.

Do you use a pole plant at turn initiation? Are the backs of the skis skidding or the whole ski?

post #7 of 12
Thanks for the clarification "Beginner"

I put this in quotes because if you are making "parallel" round skidded turns you are not really a "beginner" any more.

I don't have the "certification" or the teaching miles many of the others do but I would not worry so much about the weight balance (70/30). Concentrate more on your lateral balance and completing (even round C shaped turns) that end/begin not at a specific point in the shape but at the speed you want to be traveling at. In otherwords stay on that turning ski until you are at the speed you want to be traveling at. Then start your new turn. if you want to be going real slow this might be almost the stall point.

As you move to steeper more challenging terrain, (gradually) if you are maintaining good balance your body will make the weight distribution for you. If it doesn't you will fall over. You will feel pressure build up more under your skis as you begin to get more speed.

Exercises? try on a very gentle slope skiing straight down and lifting one ski, then the other. almost like marching while sliding.

When you are on flats, try skating with a long glide on one ski between pushes rather than using your poles to push you along. (balance and feeling the ski begin to turn in as you glide on one ski)

Play with side slips in both directions to get the feel of your edges and subtle edge control.

And most important, take time out of your "practice times" to just go play and have fun...
post #8 of 12
Hi, Beginner,
Sounds like you'll have to change your name to 'intermediate' pretty soon...
When you focus on how much weight is on each ski, remember that it is transitional and that at some point you need to return to a 50-50 stance ( neutral) in order to realign your body. If you skip this neutral phase by moving laterally from ski to ski, you will find yourself constantly leaning to the back and inside of every turn. Shift your weight to the new ski by flexing over it and moving with the ski. Don't try and 'push' the ski to an edge, if it skids a bit just go with it. Your main focus at this stage should be trying to stay balanced over your skis. Have fun and welcome to the club!
post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 
DChan...its "beginner" because I'm only comfortable on greens so far. I'm not yet comfortable on steeper terrain. Still trying to get the rythm and flow on gentle slopes before I move to steeper slopes. Thanks for the great tips! I particularly like the ones that suggest I'm doing ok! The "don't worry about 70/30" comment is particularly appreciated. Actually, Bob Barnes has a great post on "ski the slow line fast" which addresses a lot of what I'm asking. This is also a follow up on what my instructor said at the conclusion of my last lesson. He suggested that a more equal weighting on both edges would be called for in powder, otherwise the lighter ski would be dragged out of parallel. He also said equal weighting wou,d improve carving since both edges were in play. I'm still more comfortable with riding that outside edge. I feel much more in control.
post #10 of 12
Great Beginner,

Think about a car. When you turn a corner which wheels will have more "weight" on them.
The car is not trying to put more weight on the outside turns, The physics of the turn just put it out there. If you keep in balance your feet and body will do the rest.
I would not even try to think about the equal weight for powder until you are ready to tackle that one. By trying to keep the weight equal it's hard to thing about edge angle and it sounds like you are getting to the point where you are trying to tip the skis up on edge. If you allow yourself enough space between your feet to tip the skis on edge, try to keep the edge angle the same. the weight/pressure will go where it needs to in order to keep you from falling over.
post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
Dchan...you've got it correct. I'm definitely using my edges in turns and turning all the time. I also exit the turn at comfortable speeds, i.e. I'm only completing the turns to the extent necessary to maintain control (usually ). My main focus for improvement at this point is to smooth the transition from turn to turn. Once I'm comfortable with that, I'll increase speeds until I'm comfortable with steeper terraine. I think.
post #12 of 12
You are going too slow. Go a little faster.

edit, I was writing this when you did your last post. Amazing how it takes me 4 minutes to write 2 sentences, huh!

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