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Edge and Base bevel?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
??? For my 08-09 Nordica Afterburner.
post #2 of 21
Thread Starter 
So nobody knows?
post #3 of 21
Have you tried e-mailing the company?

I e-mailed Marker Canada about my P50 F1s and got an answer the very next day.
post #4 of 21
Do the base and side bevels to suit your skiing style and snow conditions.

Do you ski these on hard pack?  How about 3° sides and 1° bases?  Or better, 0.75° bases feathered to 1° at the tips & tails.  Never on hard pack?  2° sides result in a smaller notch in the edges when a rock is hit.  Big skidder, not carver?...have the shop round off the edges on the tips & tails.  Carver, not skidder?...keep the edges sharp all the way to the points where the edges lose contact with the snow.
post #5 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post

Do the base and side bevels to suit your skiing style and snow conditions.

 
I love the way the skis, ski. That's one reason I would like to know what the bevels are. I suspect 1&2.

I am kinda surprised that it seems to be mystery. It's not like these are 20 year old skis.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Well It must be some kinda dark secret. Even Nordica didn't respond to my email asking what the factory base and edge bevels were. Nobody knows or is willing to divulge.

I guess I am doomed to have some Nordica dealer tune my skis, if I want to keep the factory angles.
post #7 of 21
Are you trying to match existing bevel angles or set them to a manufacturer's recommendation?
post #8 of 21
If you have a guide or two, you can see if it matches the existing edge angles with a Sharpie. By running a thin film of ink along the edges, you can then use a fine stone or diamond in the guide. If the ink comes off evenly, you have a match. If not, it's easy to see which way the guide would need to increase or decrease to get a match. Multi-angle guides are useful for this, versus owning several guides. Record your findings for future reference.

Also, you can use feeler gauges and a true bar to determine base edge angles:




Another option for side edge angle matching is to use a true bar on a fixed guide and edge:

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post #10 of 21
 Another trick is to use a diamond stone or a ceramic stone with different guides to see which is hitting the edge properly (BTW, sometimes you don't get the whole edge when checking it, I know I'll often "over-cut" the edge with a machine and then fine tune it to spec - cut 3 degrees and then fine tune it to 1 degree).

Also, a lot of the Nordica's were either 1 and 1 or 1 and 2 (but chances are you are a 2 degree side bevel)
post #11 of 21

Nordica factory set bevels are base 0.5 and side edge 1.5

post #12 of 21

Nordica base angle from factory is .5 edge angle is 1.5

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So every Nordica ski comes with a .5 base bevel and a 1.5 side bevel?

 

That does not sound right.

 

Most folks (tourist/intermediates) would find a ski with a .5 base unskiable, way too hooky and grabby.

post #14 of 21

I agree, .5 for a base bevel would be very unusual and an in-between side bevel?  Can't see it.  I'm sure it's either 1 and 1 or 1 and 2.  

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The base is 1 degree. NO factory ski (even race stock slalom) come with a .5 degree base bevel.  And no one makes a side edge beveler worth it's salt that does 1/2 degree incremeents, and if they did it would be a excercise in uselessness!

 

and certainly no all mountain ski has a .5 base bevel

 

Side is a 1 or a 2.

 

 

Do a true 1 degree base and 3 side edge and you'll be lovin' life!

post #16 of 21

The ski tuning/repair shop that is associated with the rental shop were i work does 1/1 as a standard tune. My friend who use to own a ski shop did 1/1 as a standard tune. So if the OP has had his ski sharpened it may well be that the OP's skis are now a 1/1 regardless of the original factory tune.

 

According to a friend who is a World Cup tuner, they usually do .75/3 or .75/4. Once the bevel is set at the start of the season usually all they ever do is polish the side edge. He also said that WC skis are so sharp that you wouldn't want to and probably couldn't ski recreationally with them.

post #17 of 21

My Speed Machines came from the factory that way. The literature that came with them stated that. I tune mine 1 degree base, two edge. Again it is not an intermediate ski

post #18 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post.  And no one makes a side edge beveler worth it's salt that does 1/2 degree incremeents, and if they did it would be a excercise in uselessness!

 

i think the whole Line lineup is 1 x 1.5 so some usefulness

post #19 of 21


It's not Afterburner is 1,2.

 

And it really doesn't matter what the factory did.

 

do a .5 .7 or 1 degree base edge (depending on your preference)  with a 3 degree side edge and your good to go!

 

One good thing about trying a .5 as a starting point is that you can alsways increase the bevel to a .7 or a 1 w/o a grind. If you start at a 1 you can't go to a .7 or a .5.

 

I thnk most will find a .5 is failry unyeilding. a.7 is a good compromise between a .5 and a 1 degree. But a true clean 1 burr free consistent 1 degree skis very well as long as long as  you go no farther.

 

I truly believe most folks over base bevel their skis.

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Originally Posted by natrat View Post

i think the whole Line lineup is 1 x 1.5 so some usefulness



 


Edited by Atomicman - 1/26/12 at 4:02pm
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by Atomicman View Post


It's not Afterburner is 1,2.

 


 


huh, you mean Afterbang? there is no afterburner . Anyway from the horses mouth "What are the factory edge bevels?
All of our skis come from the factory with a hot wax and are tuned with a 1 degree base edge and 1.5 degree side edge bevel." http://lineskis.com/support/product-and-technical-support/product-knowledge

 

anyway don't do what i did, i reversed those #s and the ski didn't track right

 

post #21 of 21

I meant Top Fuel!


Thought one thing typed another. It happens........................................ with age!

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by natrat View Post


huh, you mean Afterbang? there is no afterburner . Anyway from the horses mouth "What are the factory edge bevels?
All of our skis come from the factory with a hot wax and are tuned with a 1 degree base edge and 1.5 degree side edge bevel." http://lineskis.com/support/product-and-technical-support/product-knowledge

 

anyway don't do what i did, i reversed those #s and the ski didn't track right

 



 

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