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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
When posting images, there is no longer the option to add the URL of existing images. By design or bug?
post #2 of 20
Terry, it looks like your signature image has disappeared?  Anyway, there are several ways of getting images online to epicski now.  The newest feature is the ability to create albums and bulk-upload many images at once to host on EpicSki.  I'll be doing that from now on rather than photobucket.  The image dialogue has a tab for existing images, and if you paste the URL into the "Import URL" box, I'm still able to link images from other sites.

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post #3 of 20
The Image URL section of the tool is designed to be used for both image on site and off site.  At the moment, if you use any URL of an image on site, it will be embedded as usual.  We removed the ability to embed an image based on file name as part of the move to use Amazon's s3 and cloudhost services.  Images no longer are required to have a unique file name which means embedding based on file name isn't really functional anymore.

We're working on adding ways to more easily use images from your albums and elsewhere on the site as using image URLs are definitely a bit clunky.
post #4 of 20
I just did this yesterday.  There was a separate tab. 

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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post

When posting images, there is no longer the option to add the URL of existing images. By design or bug?
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
I'm not sure what happened to the sig image yet. I did not change anything.

Edit: it was simple missing in the profile. Somehow it got purged.....

The following image was posted in the BC Stoke thread. When I try to view the image in the thread, as expected, opens the link on our server. Picture 1.png

tempting2.jpg

Now the image below (Imported URL) is imported to EpicSki (and the URL is not editable).

http://www.epicski.com/image/id/29851/width/1000/height/800

This is not desirable. In the event I update a detail or image at it's source, the expectation has been that it'll trickle through to where ever the images are posted using the source URL.

Is the intent that any image posted in EpicSki becomes 'owned' by EpicSki or Huddler?
post #6 of 20
I looked at mine.  It was put in my "default album" on my profile.  I can remove it from there, so it's editable from that standpoint. 
post #7 of 20
Quote:
Alpinord: Is the intent that any image posted in EpicSki becomes 'owned' by EpicSki or Huddler?

Nope, it has to do with this:
Quote:
Stins: We removed the ability to embed an image based on file name as part of the move to use Amazon's s3 and cloudhost services. 
post #8 of 20
post #9 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the album info. It took forever to load to check out, however. I can see how this could be useful for those without a place to upload images. I see no use for it (at the moment, anyway). I currently manage thousands of images on a couple 'albums'/servers which are linked to from several locations. Editing and syncing from my computer is set up with multiple tools and is more direct and far quicker. One more location to manage is not desirable since my little brain can't handle any more.

So, will simply linking to an existing image be an option?
post #10 of 20
 The dialog box has a tab for importing existing images (import URL), which is how I imported this image:

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post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 
I understand the import image process, but what was the original URL for that image?

It was changed to: http://cdn.huddler.com/d/d3/d31843f1_n89975379727_5967.jpg because it was imported. If it was an image I imported from my library (outside of EpicSki) and I used it in several other locations at different times and I needed/wanted to edit it, I'd have to go to multiple locations to edit it. Up until now, I could edit the image at one location and it would change at all locations because there was one URL.

The original URL for the tracks image above is: http://www.slidewright.com/Misc/LaPlata_BC_1_7_10/tempting2.jpg and it still is in the BC Stoke thread.

Now the URL for the same image after import is: http://cdn.huddler.com/0/06/06815062_tempting2.jpg and not http://www.slidewright.com/Misc/LaPlata_BC_1_7_10/tempting2.jpg as desired.
Edited by Alpinord - 2/15/10 at 4:58pm
post #12 of 20
 Sounds fishy to me. They shouldn't change the url of our images. If I wanted to host my picture here, I would do so.
post #13 of 20
I see the problem now, Alpinord. I don't know if we can do it both ways, but we'll find out. 
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
What a BIG PITA and time waster the image import process is now!

I tried to perform the simple import of some text and images for this thread. Something messed up on submitting the second thread with the images. I re-made the post and could not import the images. I went to the cumbersome and slow album to see the images there (and no obvious method to add them to the post, BTW). I deleted them to try again with no luck with the importing.

How is one supposed to add images from the albums to a post?

Will drag and drop be supported from another source?
post #15 of 20
Hi I'm Andy - product manager for the Huddler platform. I wanted to jump in here. It's a really good question about embedding images by URL and I wanted to comment on it.

Image hotlinking - the practice whereby you embed an externally hosted image URL onto a page here - is still supported if you edit source on your post text, but we didn't want to necessarily encourage this in the GUI tools by default because image hotlinking has some downsides.

Hotlinking creates bandwidth impact for the external site that actually serves the image. Every time the EpicSki page loads, that image host has to serve the image. That's okay if it's your server, but the old tool made it far too easy for users to inadvertently put a hosting strain on external sites without even realizing it. I have even seen some sites change externally hotlinked image URLs to point to *ahem* very unpleasant images, as a way of saying "hey, stop stealing our bandwidth." The more common case is for hotlinked image ULRs to just break over time, resulting in lots of "Image not found" graphics throughout historic posts. We want to avoid all this as much as possible.

Of course, there are perfectly valid uses for hotlinking too. If you even know what hotlinking is, chances are you're advanced enough to edit your post "source" and paste in the URL you want. We don't block this. So you can still hotlink if you really want to. But we set up the GUI tool to steer mainstream, less tech-savvy users away from image hotlinking by default. Sorry that hotlinking requires this extra effort now, but I think we're meeting at the best balance point between mainstream and advanced users.

What we've implemented spares other sites from bandwidth impact and helps make sure images will still work reliably on EpicSki pages in the future. For the majority of ordinary users, we think this is the safest and friendliest default to set up the GUI tools for.

This was a change we needed to make to the platform at some point and no matter when we made the switch, there was bound to be some one-time transition pain from hotlinked --> hosted. We regret any problems this transition has caused anyone, and thank you for your understanding. On the plus side, we can look forward to fewer images breaking over time, no more bandwidth impact to external hosts (or risk of them changing your hotlinked images to porn), and a way to look at your embedded images in one place (via user galleries).

 

Thanks for letting me contribute here!

 

Andy

post #16 of 20
Thread Starter 
I had forgotten about band width usage. (Hot linking does help with tracking, somewhat., BTW.)

Thanks for the explanation and reminder on editing the source.

{(Reminder for future reference: Edit image source for Image format.)}



What about drag and drop?

How does one select an image from their album when they are in the middle of editing a post?
post #17 of 20
Maybe by going to a new tab and looking at the URL of the desired item there and copying it?

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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post

I had forgotten about band width usage. (Hot linking does help with tracking, somewhat., BTW.)

Thanks for the explanation and reminder on editing the source.

{(Reminder for future reference: Edit image source for Image format.)}



What about drag and drop?

How does one select an image from their album when they are in the middle of editing a post?
post #18 of 20
Quote:
How does one select an image from their album when they are in the middle of editing a post?

Yeah, you need to open it up in a new tab and copy the URL. Not the greatest and we are working on better ways to call up your albums and embed your images easily. Still gathering user feedback on what people do most often but this will get better.

Can you be more specific about what you mean here?

1) "will drag and drop be supported from another source?"

2) "edit image source for image format"

Thanks!

Andy
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahilal View Post


Yeah, you need to open it up in a new tab and copy the URL. Not the greatest and we are working on better ways to call up your albums and embed your images easily. Still gathering user feedback on what people do most often but this will get better.

Can you be more specific about what you mean here?

1) "will drag and drop be supported from another source?"

2) "edit image source for image format"

Thanks!

Andy

 

1) An obvious button to open as pop up user album where a user could simple click/select an image and drag it into the post would be slick. No copy and pasting URLs from multiple tabs or windows. (I can do a screencast if needed for drag and drop.)

2) "edit image source for image format" was a note to self to revisit this thread to remember to edit the source code of the above post to see proper "img embed formatting". (Because my memory is good......but short.)
post #20 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post

1) An obvious button to open as pop up user album where a user could simple click/select an image and drag it into the post would be slick. No copy and pasting URLs from multiple tabs or windows. (I can do a screencast if needed for drag and drop.)

Yes, something like that is just what I have in mind. I don't know if it will be as slick as a true drag-n-drop, but we can absolutely make it easier than printing-out-the-URL-and-FedExing-it-to-yourself as is necessary now 
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