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Which US alpine skier will win the most medals at the Olympics?

Poll Results: Which US skier (alpine and freestyle skiers that is) will win the most olympic medals this month?

Poll expired: Mar 2, 2010  
  • 30% (3)
    Lindsey Vonn (Ladies first ;-)
  • 20% (2)
    Bode Miller
  • 20% (2)
    Julia Mancuso
  • 10% (1)
    Ted Ligety
  • 0% (0)
    Some Freedogger
  • 0% (0)
    Shawn White, wait he doesn't ski does he? :-P
  • 20% (2)
    Someone else
  • 0% (0)
    Flawed poll. They all are!
10 Total Votes  
post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
OK Lindsey's nicked, Bode's , well he's still Bode.  Who will capture the most medals for the US (Alpine and Freestyle, not including Nordic events)?
post #2 of 25
IMO, this is going to be the Austrians show. If Vonn isn't healed enough to be at the top of her game, I think it's a distinct possibility that the US team will be shut out of any Gold at this Olympics--perhaps shut out of any medals. Someone will likely come away with a silver or Bronze, however. Outside of Vonn being healthy, I think this is not going to be a good Olympic year for the US Ski Team.

Even the freestyle events/Skier-Cross are anyone's guess -- Rhalves and Cody are hurt. The US ski team is pretty beat up at this point.
post #3 of 25
wow its been a little since i heard julia's name. i used to ski with her way long ago training for junior champs and surfed together a few summers back in the usa.
 she did good last olympics and the circuit the year after but since then not sure what happened but she hasnt been winning world cups for sure and i havent heard her name among the us medal contenders

and i wish Hermann Maier was still around for the austrians 
post #4 of 25
 I'm not sure about the Austrians this year (the women, that is).  Katherin Zettel is a supreme ski technician but her weight is against her (she's about 130# against Paerson's @175 and Vonn's @160).  The rest of the Austrian women's team is young/inexperienced.  NEXT Olympics will be theirs, I think.  They' will take the advances the Americans make (Vonn on Bode's skis) and pummel us with their hard work and discipline.  So we'll have to come up with some new creative answer...

Maria Riesch is a contender, as well as her sister Susanne.  Susanne is a bit more quirky (with quirky being that thing that, with a lot of work and discipline, pushes you over the top), so she may take longer to get into her competing boots--again, perhaps next olympics.

Who knows?
post #5 of 25

Although the Austrians will likely dominate in the mens division, it would be nice to see another country dominate the mens Olympic Alpine events. Maria Reisch certainly has a chance to win the overall indivual Alpine count, as does Vonn, if she is 100%.
 

Unlike the season-long WC circuit, the Olympics are not about who the best skier is, but about who the best skier is on the day of the race. That makes the Olympics more exciting to watch, IMO.
 

I was always the type of person who rooted for the underdog. It was exciting when Ligety won the combined and Macuso the GS, in Turin. It's always nice to see some fresh faces on the podium. For me, it makes it more exciting when someone unexpected takes a victory. When someone is ahead of the field and is considered a lock, it's not that exciting and you always expect them to win. Outside of New England, who wants to watch the Patriots win another Super Bowl? Boooooring.
 

This is probably why I never really got excited about Bode, or currently Vonn, in the Olympics. I kind of expect them to do well and don't have a great sense of excitement watching the events. When someone is so far ahead of others in their field, it makes for a boring event--for me, that is.

So, I am rooting for the underdogs out there--from whatever nation.

post #6 of 25
 So watch out for Katherin Zettel...
post #7 of 25
US skiers...Vonn, if reasonably healthy, could win a couple of medals{ and hopefully a DH gold}. I really hesitate to say "should", but she's got to be the huge favorite in both the SG and the DH if her shin is OK. I doubt if any other US women get close to the podium. Men: Ligety has a chance in the GS and my hunch says a better chance in the SG on that hill. I think he might medal in either. I also think that we'll see Bode on a podium. If the SG is a more open set, then he could do very well. I would not be shocked to see him pull it out in the combined, or have one of those vintage Bode runs in the DH. It is probably a wishful gut reaction. Big Bode fan. Nobody else, IMO. If Jimmy Cochran snuck on the third step in the SL it would be just huge. He's a darkhorse, but evidently skiing very fast. I'd put Steven Nyman and Marco Sullivan in there, too. Just because it's being held in Vancouver. Darkhorses.

I'm not seeing this huge Austrian male domination, though I could eat those words. Sometimes we're overwhelmed watching WC races as they have so many, great starters. In the games, they only start 4 per event. I think that Cuche is the DH favorite, but I also really like the Canadian, Manny Osborne-Paradis. he knows the hill better than anybody. I like Svindal in the SG, Janka in the GS, and Lizeroux in the SL. If Hirscher can stand, he could content in the GS. Fairly easy hill, though which may not be ideal for him. But when he's on, he's got blistering speed. I think that Raich has a legitimate chance in everything but the DH. He's my combined pick {though Bode could be there}, and could medal in the other three. I doubt if we'll see it, but he might have the best overall games.

Women. Zettel is hardly an underdog. She's #2 in the WC standings in both SL and GS. I think that in the SL and GS, there are a lot of potential medalists. Maria Reisch is a favorite in the SL. I think she or Zettel wins, and there are about another 6 who you could pick to podium. I like Tina Maze in the GS, with Zettel. DH:  Vonn, Reisch, Paerson. That would be a very neat podium. SG: Vonn, and then anybody's guess. Pretty wide open. 

Should be fun to watch. Other than Vonn, hopefully good day or two by Ligety,  and Bode peaking, things are lean for the US this time around, I'm afraid. A lot of experience being gained by some of the younger skiers.
 
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Bump, any second thoughts?
post #9 of 25
Richie- Rich of course!  Come on folks, LV isn't even permitte dto look at his skis.....
post #10 of 25
Julia's looking mighty fine. I think the events being grouped together now is going to hurt Lindsay-she was really favoring the leg-and I doubt she was keen to "strap in and do it again" after the run yesterday
post #11 of 25
Just think how awesome Bode would be if he actually worked on his skiing the last 4 years, instead of his partying
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by MaxKc View Post

Just think how awesome Bode would be if he actually worked on his skiing the last 4 years, instead of his partying
 

Bode already is awesome. I used to think his priorities were somewhat different until I saw the look on his face when he finished the DH a few days ago, but, then again, there's a big difference in perspective between age 28 and 32.
post #13 of 25
Two races down for the woman, only one for the men. Two medals already for Mancuso, and only one for Vonn, with three races to go, of which two not Vonn's speciality. Four races still to go for men, of which Miller could hope to contend in two. Anyone want to give me odds? Feb. 19, before start of men's SG, I still say Vonn wins as many or more medals than either Mancuso or Miller.
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
I have a hard time adding these up in my head

Bode:
Downhill bronze
Super-G silver
Super Combined Slalom gold
Super Combioned gold

Julia:
Downhill silver
Super Combined Slalom silver
Super Combined silver

Lindsey:
Downhill gold
Super-G bronze

Maria:-not American, but worth noting these!
Ladies Slalom gold

Super Combined Slalom gold

Super Combined gold

Did I miss any?  It appears that Bode took home the most medals of any American alpine skier.
post #15 of 25

Isn't the Super-Combined just one medal for the

Downhill and Slalom runs combined?  making Julia's and Bode's total one less?

post #16 of 25

Yep, no such thing as a super combined slalom event. It's one of the two runs to combine for the SC result. Very impressive for the US.  Austrian men had ZERO medals. None.

post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

I have a hard time adding these up in my head

Bode:
Downhill bronze
Super-G silver
Super Combined Slalom gold
Super Combioned gold

Julia:
Downhill silver
Super Combined Slalom silver
Super Combined silver

Lindsey:
Downhill gold
Super-G bronze

Andrew Weibrecht
Super-G bronze


Maria:-not American, but worth noting these!
Ladies Slalom gold

Super Combined Slalom gold

Super Combined gold

Did I miss any?  It appears that Bode took home the most medals of any American alpine skier.


 


I think muleski pretty clearly wins the soothsayer prize with his post of 2/10.

(Unless he somehow figured out a way to edit it his 2+ weeks later without an edit notation appearing).
post #18 of 25
It would be unfair to cite anyone who had the temerity to make a prediction which proved inaccurate.

On the other hand:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muleski View Post

Vonn, if reasonably healthy, could win a couple of medals
{ and hopefully a DH gold}....
we'll see Bode on a podium.
If the SG is a more open set, then he could do very well.
I would not be shocked to see him pull it out in the combined,
or have one of those vintage Bode runs in the DH....
Jimmy Cochran ... a darkhorse, but evidently skiing very fast [pretty fast, until he crashed, anyway]
I'm not seeing this huge Austrian male domination....
I like Svindal in the SG,
Janka in the GS....
Maria Reisch is a favorite in the SL....
I like Tina Maze in the GS...
DH:  Vonn, Reisch, Paerson. That would be a very neat podium. [one crash away from 2/3 of the podium, anyway]
 
post #19 of 25
Consolidated medal count:

USA: 8
Bode Miller: 3 (1st SC, 2nd SG, 3rd DH)
Lindsey Vonn: 2 (1st DH, 3rd SG)
Julia Mancuso: 2 (2nd DH, 2nd SC)
Andrew Weibrecht: 1 (3rd SG)

Norway: 4
Aksel Lund Svindal: 3 (1st SG, 2nd DH, 3rd GS)
Kjetil Jansrud: 1 (2nd GS)

Germany: 3
Maria Riesch: 2 (1st SC, 1st SL)
Viktoria Rebensburg: 1 (1st GS)

Austria: 3
Andrea Fischbacher: 1 (1st SG)
Marlies Schild: 1 (2nd SL)
Elizabeth Görgl: 1 (3rd GS)

Switzerland: 2
Didier Defago: 1 (1st DH)
Carlo Janka: 1 (1st GS)

Croatia: 2
Ivica Kostelic: 2 (2nd SC, 2nd SL)

Slovenia: 2
Tina Maze: 2 (2nd SG, 2nd GS)

Sweden: 2
Anja Pärson: 1 (3rd SC)
André Myhrer: 1 (3rd SL)

Italy: 1
Giuliano Razzoli: 1 (1st SL)

Czech Republic: 1
Sarka Zahrobska: 1 (3rd SL)
post #20 of 25

Good thing I don't know where to bet on this, or I would clearly be broke!

 

Tough games for the Austrian men. I will be very interesting to see how they "manage" things moving forward. They do not deal with this stuff well. There's also a history of national teams overreacting at what they perceive to be under achievements. 2002 Olympics in SLC, and firing the entire Canadian speed coaching staff during the games comes to mind. Nobody outside of the Canadian OC was looking for much with a very young team, and all they did was piss off the athletes and fire some very, very good coaches. Hope the Austrians don't roll heads. My hunch is that they didn't deal with the weather or the snow. They'll be back. Marcel Hirscher is the same age as Tommy Ford, and quite a bit faster at this point.

 

 

post #21 of 25
LOL! Epic FAIL!

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Originally Posted by MojoMan View Post

IMO, this is going to be the Austrians show. If Vonn isn't healed enough to be at the top of her game, I think it's a distinct possibility that the US team will be shut out of any Gold at this Olympics--perhaps shut out of any medals. Someone will likely come away with a silver or Bronze, however. Outside of Vonn being healthy, I think this is not going to be a good Olympic year for the US Ski Team.

Even the freestyle events/Skier-Cross are anyone's guess -- Rhalves and Cody are hurt. The US ski team is pretty beat up at this point.

 
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by sjjohnston View Post
 
Thanks for the edits amigo

Quote:
Originally Posted by songfta View Post

Consolidated medal count:

USA: 8
Bode Miller: 3 (1st SC, 2nd SG, 3rd DH)
Lindsey Vonn: 2 (1st DH, 3rd SG)
Julia Mancuso: 2 (2nd DH, 2nd SC)
Andrew Weibrecht: 1 (3rd SG)

Norway: 4
Aksel Lund Svindal: 3 (1st SG, 2nd DH, 3rd GS)
Kjetil Jansrud: 1 (2nd GS)

Germany: 3
Maria Riesch: 2 (1st SC, 1st SL)
Viktoria Rebensburg: 1 (1st GS)

Austria: 3
Andrea Fischbacher: 1 (1st SG)
Marlies Schild: 1 (2nd SL)
Elizabeth Görgl: 1 (3rd GS)

Switzerland: 2
Didier Defago: 1 (1st DH)
Carlo Janka: 1 (1st GS)

Croatia: 2
Ivica Kostelic: 2 (2nd SC, 2nd SL)

Slovenia: 2
Tina Maze: 2 (2nd SG, 2nd GS)

Sweden: 2
Anja Pärson: 1 (3rd SC)
André Myhrer: 1 (3rd SL)

Italy: 1
Giuliano Razzoli: 1 (1st SL)

Czech Republic: 1
Sarka Zahrobska: 1 (3rd SL)
 
It was really cool seeing Alberto Tomba there cheering on Razzoli.  I remember Tomba's break out Olympics and how he was one of the first guys to take full advantage of  hinged RapidGates by going over them instead of around them.
post #23 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muleski View PostHope the Austrians don't roll heads. My hunch is that they didn't deal with the weather or the snow. They'll be back. Marcel Hirscher is the same age as Tommy Ford, and quite a bit faster at this point.
I don't think that's question at all. It sure looks like end of world when reading/listening/watching Austrian medias, but in reality it's far from this. Sure they are beaten, afterall these were worse Olympics in their history, but I'm pretty sure they will be winning next week already. This week I'm pretty sure they won't... they don't have not even one victory in DH this year, so I doubt Kvitfjell will be any different, but next week they are back on podium at least in SL and GS races. But problem is, that in Austria only thing that really count is DH.
But I'm pretty sure they will be just as strong next year, as they were till now, so one failed Olympics won't change much. They won't be left without sponsors or anything like this, so only difference will be, that some of coaches might change. But even there, I don't expect really radical changes.
post #24 of 25
primroz, funny thing occurred to me reading your post. the turning point for American racers was when they set up shop in Europe, lived and trained there more, acclimated to the mountains and conditions, felt more at home and relaxed on WC in Europe, and started to podium.

If you contend that conditions did not trouble the Austrians, and that the issues have existed in Europe this season, what do you attribute their lack of dominance in DH to? Just the natural shift and rotation of talent that develops in various skiing nations?

So, maybe the Austrians should buy homes in the Sierra and Rockies of Canada and the US to get more comfortable with our mountains and snow conditions.
post #25 of 25
Davluri I have no idea to be honest. But I would say it's not really same as it's for Americans. 90% of races are in Europe, so traveling from USA or Canada to Europe and back all the time definitely makes things worse. So getting base in Europe is only chance. For us, I don't think US or Canada base is so important. Normally there are only few races and that's it. This means one flight there, and one flight back in season. Sure snow is different, but it's only few races (for some guys even only one race in season), so personally I don't think this would be some big advantage, especially considering how much time and money would be spend on this.
Why Austrians didn't win anything this year. I have no idea about this either. I'm pretty sure they work really good, as they always did. But it could be they changed few things, which on the end didn't work out good. On the other side, current team was never really all that powerful. Sure Walchhofer is always strong, but other then that, I don't think anyone of current team was serial winner. So generations changed, Maier quit, Walchhofer has obviously bad season, Raich was never really Austria's strongest men in DH, and result is here. But that's of course just my opinion, which can be totally wrong.
As far as Olympics are concerned, I don't buy that "it's different snow, and I'm not used to it". I know it's different, but it was same snow for everyone. And if US or Canada guys/girls would win everything then I might buy it, but they didn't. US skiers got 8 ("only" 2 gold) medals out of 30 (if I counted this right), which means that for 22 Europeans, this snow was just fine. Please don't understand me wrong now. 8 medals for USA is, to be honest, much much more then I expected, so it's great result and please understand that "only" 2 gold as it's written... "only" not only :) And if Svindal, Janka, Riesch etc. can win, then I don't think different snow can be excuse. And considering Austrians had bad season from beginning on, I'm staying with that what I wrote above, not with "bad snow". But once again... it's just my personal opinion, nothing else. And I'm not even Austrian :)
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