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Poll Results: Which of these should be Phil's next ski car?

 
  • 32% (13)
    Jetta Sportwagen TDI - new
  • 22% (9)
    Subaru Impreza 5dr. AWD - new
  • 32% (13)
    Subaru Legacy wagon AWD - used
  • 10% (4)
    Some Gigantic SUV
  • 2% (1)
    Doesn't matter if he moves to a slopeside home in the mountains
40 Total Votes  
post #31 of 94
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post





Do we see a new sig in your future? Lines are for losers 
You'll enjoy your Pheonix.

 
Acutally, I was thinking more along the "lines" of
"Sometimes a ski is just a ski" (variation on Sigmund Freud's comment about cigars....).
Cutely Bear, think too obscure for this crowd?
David
Edited by deliberate1 - 2/10/10 at 6:37am
post #32 of 94
Phil you keep comparing everything to the Sportwagen TDI so you know that is THE car. Just pull the trigger already! Don't forget that $1,300 tax credit. Nice little bonus.

I am holding out for the VW CC Wagon as my next car. (not in this color though) I hope they come through.




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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post




Silver is always a safe bet for me for the Impreza. If I go with the TDI SW, Red and as far as a used LSW, I would just want a dark interior. 
 
post #33 of 94
 I was kinda hoping they would come out with a TDI Cup Sportwagen. 





post #34 of 94
Nothing a kit and few mods can't take care of. Oh and a couple stickers.



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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

 I was kinda hoping they would come out with a TDI Cup Sportwagen. 





post #35 of 94
Seriously though I don't think you would be happy with the size of the Impreza. Yea, you could put a box on it but I don't think there is one that is long enough and the hatch doesn't hit. That's why I haven't even bothered with my OEM roof rail install. I have been stuffing my skis inside but it is tight and my skis are shorter than yours.
post #36 of 94
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Originally Posted by MattL View Post

Seriously though I don't think you would be happy with the size of the Impreza. Yea, you could put a box on it but I don't think there is one that is long enough and the hatch doesn't hit. That's why I haven't even bothered with my OEM roof rail install. I have been stuffing my skis inside but it is tight and my skis are shorter than yours.
LOL, the hatch on my 09 Forester kisses the Thule 21 I have just a tad..
post #37 of 94
I have Yakima Rocketbox on my (wife's) 09 Forester. Perfect match.

Sorry to go off topic.

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post



LOL, the hatch on my 09 Forester kisses the Thule 21 I have just a tad..
 
post #38 of 94
I think he should go a totally different route and buy a used LeCar.
post #39 of 94
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Originally Posted by MattL View Post

Seriously though I don't think you would be happy with the size of the Impreza. Yea, you could put a box on it but I don't think there is one that is long enough and the hatch doesn't hit. That's why I haven't even bothered with my OEM roof rail install. I have been stuffing my skis inside but it is tight and my skis are shorter than yours.


That is my biggest concern with the Impreza.  If they made an Impreza wagon again instead of just a 5dr HB, I would be in. 
post #40 of 94
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Originally Posted by JDoyal View Post

I think he should go a totally different route and buy a used LeCar.

Ooh, then we could call him LePhil.
post #41 of 94
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Originally Posted by JDoyal View Post

I think he should go a totally different route and buy a used LeCar.


 



Been there...twice. this was the first of two Le Cars we had. 
post #42 of 94
Sorry, as a coach, I use dry erase markers, and think out of the box.....

VW's have the worst maint history.

Can't kill a Subaru

Personally, I just replaced my Toyota 4Runner that got totaled, with another Toyota 4Runner.
post #43 of 94
I trust the other one was an R5.

Did you use either of them to transport LePhil and The Ski to the slopes?
post #44 of 94
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post



I trust the other one was an R5.

Did you use either of them to transport LePhil and The Ski to the slopes?
 
post #45 of 94
OMG, I would never have guessed. I saw one of those a few years back in the back of a big pick up truck on a dealer lot. A sign in the window said "buy one, get one free"
post #46 of 94
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Originally Posted by MattL View Post


Phil you keep comparing everything to the Sportwagen TDI so you know that is THE car. Just pull the trigger already! Don't forget that $1,300 tax credit. Nice little bonus.

I am holding out for the VW CC Wagon as my next car. (not in this color though) I hope they come through.






 

Sides look like a BMW wagon, front looks like a mazda 3, and in the CC version I'm guessing $45k, especially if they do a strong, high mileage diesel.  Pretty nice though.  I just want a diesel CRV to come out.  I know this is dumb, but get the A3 TDI for the headlights!!
post #47 of 94
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Originally Posted by MattL View Post

I have Yakima Rocketbox on my (wife's) 09 Forester. Perfect match.
 

Not off topic at all.  Already having factory racks that were compatible with my ski box and no sun roof was  the defining criteria that finalized my selection.

Does that Yakima hold 204s?  Mine might, I know it holds 195s though. 
post #48 of 94
Thread Starter 
In light of the current weather pattern in Phil's world, I'm wondering if he should consider something that he can attach a plow to.
post #49 of 94
Subaru finally just announced they have leather at last in the WRX.....I am attempting to gather funds necessary to purchase a 2010 WRX limited stick shift.....in the hatch version....

This was just emailed to me by Subaru last night.

WRX with leather, sunroof and premium electronics......wow!!!!

Sticker expected to be around 28K
post #50 of 94
OK,
i owned a WRX,
i owned a Volvo V70R w/ 300hp

I owned a subaru outback 3.0R vdc,

and

All these cars aren't even in close to same league as my Acura RDX. after just over a year, it is so hands down better then then any car I've owned, expecially the subarus that you should check it out, Phil

My list in the end came down to the BMW 328xi wagon, and the RDX. The RDX won after a week of huge pros and cons work, and while looks was on the cons, the thing is so functional and drives so well that it was the right choice for sure.

You should check it out before you go to a german, high maintenance cost car w/ no ground clearance... Also, they come back from 2 yr leases, and you can get a pretty good value that way. mine had 15k on it, and was as new, but 12K less then new.

Cheers,
Holiday
post #51 of 94
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Originally Posted by Holiday View Post

OK,
i owned a WRX,
i owned a Volvo V70R w/ 300hp

I owned a subaru outback 3.0R vdc,

and

All these cars aren't even in close to same league as my Acura RDX. after just over a year, it is so hands down better then then any car I've owned, expecially the subarus that you should check it out, Phil
 

I've had an RDX for three years, and it's a great car.  But the gas mileage is not good, it has limited cargo space, and it's pathetic in snow compared to my Subarus (this is a limitation of Honda's FWD-based AWD system and the RDX's low ground clearance).  The strong point, which is relevant to me in the absence of a Legacy GT wagon, is the handling, which is exceptional for an SUV.  That is what drew me to the RDX in the first place, in addition to the great cockpit and seating space.  So it's a great car I can live with year round, but not the best ski car I have owned.

The upcoming TSX sport wagon will probably be better than the RDX in the areas that matter to me, and that's a strong contender for my next car.
post #52 of 94
Phil, I voted for the Jetta. We have about 12,000 miles on ours already. I was never crazy about the slab style body work, chromed grill but my biggest complaint is lack of ground clearance. I hear there is an all new Jetta in the works. The car is solid in the snow we've been getting here but I've only been on plow packed roads. I'm using the tires the car came with... don't even know what they are. This car is much heavier than my '97 Passat TDI and better in the snow but I think it's the tires on the Passat. The Jetta is almost as heavy as my '99 Passat. The best mileage (according to the on board computer)seems to be driving around here on local roads that I describe as rural/suburban and hilly. We routinely get in the low to mid 40 mpg. Interstate travel I get in the high 30s going up to the mountains and mid 40s coming back but I seldom drive the posted speed, usually 5-10+ except when snow covered. The TDI and six speed manual are a marvel. The car accelerates well in every gear. I can loaf around town in 6th at about 45mph but it will require a down shift if you need to move rapidly.

I've jammed 4 sets of skis in the pass through with enough room for boot bags and a small cooler stacked in the back and still have room for 4. The standard stereo is good but I have hearing loss from years of industrial work. Heated seat and mirrors are nice too. Plenty of leg room in the front but a little tight in the back (do you really care?)

I must have been extremely lucky with all the VWs I've owned because the maintenance issues have all been standard, brakes, a clutch on my 99 Passat after my daughter and boyfriend tried to 'rock' it out of a snow drift (already had 100,000 plus on the O) one in my Eurovan with more than 100,000 on the O (I bought it used so can't say how it was driven) Still have the same clutch in my 86 Jetta that has 240,000 on the O, CV Joints after 100,000 and struts and shocks. My Jetta has some electrical issues that started in the last few years but it sits a lot.  One turbo for the 99 after 200,000 miles, one fuel injector pump for the 86 after 200,000 + a radiator for one. Is this excessive? I've owned VWs for over thirty years and I've only owned 9 and put over or near 200,000 on all of them except the new one. I will say this for every one of them, they are not an appliance. Even the standard diesel is fun to drive.

post #53 of 94
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Originally Posted by skier219 View Post




I've had an RDX for three years, and it's a great car.  But the gas mileage is not good, it has limited cargo space, and it's pathetic in snow compared to my Subarus (this is a limitation of Honda's FWD-based AWD system and the RDX's low ground clearance).  The strong point, which is relevant to me in the absence of a Legacy GT wagon, is the handling, which is exceptional for an SUV.  That is what drew me to the RDX in the first place, in addition to the great cockpit and seating space.  So it's a great car I can live with year round, but not the best ski car I have owned.

The upcoming TSX sport wagon will probably be better than the RDX in the areas that matter to me, and that's a strong contender for my next car.

 


Interesting, cargo space works well for me, i get over 20mph, so better then my subaru 3.0, better then my volvo, and about the same as my wrx. And, i drive in the snow contantly, living in truckee, and the rdx is better then either of my subarus. the traction control is GREAT. I find the ground clearance to be good, and i drive in and out of driveways w/ big berms alot, it's about the same as my outback, but w/  a shorter distance from front axle to bumper, it's even less likely to drag forme.

I do like sport wagons, although they often drag all over berms w/ the lower ride height. Also, I can't put my trailer hitch thule bike rack on them as well, as a full size reciever is key for stabiltiy. I sure have been impressed w/ acura as a company, though. I had sooo many issues w/ my subarus, I'll never buy another.

the tsx could be interesting, though.

Cheers,
holiday
post #54 of 94
 Holiday, I have gone the used Euro route before with an A4 Avant, right now the used stuff is bringing stupid high dollars at the auction. I have access to Manheim and there are just not good deals out there. 
post #55 of 94
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Originally Posted by Holiday View Post

Interesting, cargo space works well for me, i get over 20mph, so better then my subaru 3.0, better then my volvo, and about the same as my wrx. And, i drive in the snow contantly, living in truckee, and the rdx is better then either of my subarus. the traction control is GREAT. I find the ground clearance to be good, and i drive in and out of driveways w/ big berms alot, it's about the same as my outback, but w/  a shorter distance from front axle to bumper, it's even less likely to drag forme.

I do like sport wagons, although they often drag all over berms w/ the lower ride height. Also, I can't put my trailer hitch thule bike rack on them as well, as a full size reciever is key for stabiltiy. I sure have been impressed w/ acura as a company, though. I had sooo many issues w/ my subarus, I'll never buy another.

The RDX only has 6-1/4 inches of ground clearance, which is on the low side for an SUV.  It's only slightly more than my wife's TSX.  That low clearance is one ingredient in the excellent handling, so I am cool with it, but it's definitely a liability in snow or driving on rutted dirt roads.  My last Outback had 8.7" clearance with a long travel suspension, and it really made a difference -- I could drive that like a truck in most cases, where I definitely have to treat the RDX more like a car.  

I remember taking on about 16-20" of fresh powder in a parking lot with my Subaru to get a good parking spot on a powder day, and wouldn't dream of attempting that with the RDX.  For one thing, the RDX defaults to 95% front power and 5% rear power, and the fronts have to slip before the rears do any more work.  Then traction control starts reducing power and braking, which further reduces momentum (I have better luck turning it off in the RDX).  With a default 45% front / 55% rear distribution, my Outback seemed to claw through snow a lot better, to the point where traction control rarely had to kick in.

I really like Honda/Acura as a company from the engineering and product standpoints, but god help you if you have any warranty issues.  Their customer service and regional reps are stonewalls, and do everything they can to not help the customer.  We found that out with one issue on my last S2000, and it lowered the company a notch in my opinion.
post #56 of 94
 A coworker has a new Impreza and after 6000 likes she is getting just 22.5 MPG, granted it is an auto and I am thinking stick which should add another 2..maybe 3 MPG, still not what I want when the TDI is getting 40ish (some more). I think I am gonna put my order back in for a TDI. 
post #57 of 94
 I vote for the VeeDub because that's what Phil really wants. It doesn't matter if the other car is cheaper or even better, Phil is still gonna want the VeeDub. You only live once. Get what you want.
post #58 of 94
You need to buy my 2001 Audi A6 2.7T.  Ignore the "check engine" light, that's what I do.
post #59 of 94
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Originally Posted by epic View Post

 I vote for the VeeDub because that's what Phil really wants. It doesn't matter if the other car is cheaper or even better, Phil is still gonna want the VeeDub. You only live once. Get what you want.


 You've been talking to my wife, haven't you. 
post #60 of 94
Phil I think you will be happy with the TDI also.
 
But if deep snow is a major yearly problem for you (and you need ground clearance) I'd suggest the Outback.

My sister lives outside of Atlantic City. She is on her second Outback. For the last two years the car is light years ahead of the previous offerings from Subaru. The woman can brake a bowling ball. Both cars have held up well for her.

And with ALL new cars. My advise is sell them before 50,000 miles. Otherwise no one wants what is then considered a high mileage car and you loose to much money. 
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