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Pivot Slips...Help!

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I spend a lot of time in clinics and doing drills to help my teaching/skiing. I think pivot slips done on various terrain are invaluable. I have difficulty doing the drill equally well in both directions. Simply stated I think I'm extending and in fact my left ankle,knee, and hips remain fairly static. I think extension, a straight tib/fib, etc. are critical. I want to be able to pivot slip in a tighter corridor. Any tips/ideas/feelings anyone can pass along would be appreciated.

I've gone so far as standing on my steps and extending for an hour at a time on both legs.
post #2 of 11
Very clear, Pierre, eh!, and it explains some of my own problems. Thanks again.
post #3 of 11
Rusty Guy
Pierre Eh speaks true. Listen to him.
You also mentioned one way is better than the other, and you also mentioned you are aware of the tib/fib connection. Have you had your alignment checked and do you have footbeds? These can also cause some problems on one side but not the other

It's almost like you kind of knew part of it and just needed a nudge in the correct direction.
post #4 of 11
Some times we all over look the obvious..
Any more insights after the Lvl3 exam?
I got to ski with JohnH and some of his friends from VA. 2 were lvl 3 candidates (passed first part of exam) and 1 was a lvl 1 instructor so we had some great discussions about the "process"
post #5 of 11
Psst... hey dude. Stay off the fronts of your boots.

If yer shins are hard against the front of your boots, I GUARANTEE you cannot enjoy success with this exercise.

PS: If ya wanna get really good, try 'em in the bumps.
post #6 of 11
RUsty- Peire spoke about the hip and I got to say this is KEY! people twist their hip more than they ever know. When you get into you sideslip to start make sure to pull the outside hip back and hold it back, then roll the left leg to go left and the right to go right. Think about the hand on a stop watch(I guess there all digital now) anyway Think about that wand starting it's sweeeping motion make your tips do the same.
post #7 of 11
Rusty- go to www.skinastc.com and click on technique they have a picture and description of pivot slips.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all. I suspect my "problem" will be solved by following the advice of Pierre eh. I do have footbeds and my alignment has been checked. Bob, I ski almost daily with Chris and he is brutally frank. We "cliniced" today and he made an interesting comment that I would enjoy hearing feedback from in this forum.

"While doing pivot slips it is impossible to ACTUALLY turn the outside ski first. One may FEEL as though the outside or downhill tip is turning first, however, it is not." Any comments?

To all, Chris E is the boss where I work and is a PSIA-RM-E. He is arguably one of the better skiers in the area.

I'm embarrased to admit that on flat terrain at slow speeds I have a little stem when I turn to the right. I'm fine going to the left. Again, thanks to all for your insights.
post #9 of 11
Rusty and Bob- I will give what I think Chris might be getting at.(my thought anyway) As much as we try the legs don't work in isolation. Stand like you are going to start a pivot slip from a sideslip now just turn the outside leg(downhill-new inside) as you turn the leg notice what happens to the other leg. If I hold it in the air I can isolate it but as soon as there is some resistince(ie snow or my case carpet) I feel tension in the other leg as I try to turn the outside leg away first I feel the inside leg tip in that direction or slightly rotate. That all aside I would focus on the idea of turning the left leg first to go left and vise versa. I will try it on the hill as soon as I can, the carpet may not be the best test. I would be intersted in what Chris's explanation is.
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
I'll seek clarification in the morning when I see C.E. at work. I took my first day off in about two months and took my daughter to Vail for the day. I couldn't see Copper as I passed at 8:00 due to a dump in progress. Vail was fairly crowded, hence, I'll be glad to get back to my tiny little hill.

I suspect C.E. was suggesting one won't turn one leg as opposed to one can't. I suggest this is the case, having heard him tell me to try and tip my inside ski and steer slightly during medium radius turns in order to promote the outside ski chasing the inside ski and tightening the turn radius.

I'll find out in the a.m..
post #11 of 11
Bob- I concur!
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