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Conditions at Breck/Keystaone...???

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Can anyone give the lowdown on the conditions of Breckenridge and Keystone...
My wife and I are taking a ski weekend getaway and she would like to go to one of those 2 ski areas...
That and a friend of the Family gave us some lift tickets good for Breck/Keystone/Vail or BC
We don't know anyone who has been to Breck/Keystone in the past few weeks...
Most of the skiers we know have been going to Copper or Winterpark..
We have been skiing exclusively at Loveland this year...
Hopefully its getting better than what it was a month ago...i know Loveland is...
As you could tell we live in Colorado...
Thanks...

I just noticed...failed typing again...ignore spelling in title...
post #2 of 20
I skied K'stone Saturday. Got there early and went back to the Outback and skied a few bump runs. Not a lot of rocks but the bumps are getting bigger. Came back over to North Peak and did a few more bumpers, same thing. Stuff in the trees is still real thin. Groomers are almost all in perfect condition, no coverage issues. It was a little firm but not bad. As you say it's improving but slowly. A blue groomer skier should have no issues with snow.
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the info...
That's what i am looking for...
Pretty much just staying on the groomed...

Not enough snow to want to go off into the trees...maybe March and April will take care of that...
We have stuck to the trails pretty much all year...
Last year was mind blowing at this time by comparison...

We have just come to the conclusion that this year is one of those harsh years...
We just have to ski on trail...we are a spoiled bunch aren't we...
post #4 of 20
I skied Breck Saturday and Sunday.  They've received a fair bit of snow in the past week.  Saturday was the best day of the season so far for me -- I got a line in Cucumber Bowl that had knee deep when it rolled into the ravine. Sunday have very good skiing in Horseshoe Bowl and on Peak 7.  There were very nice lines with soft/untracked snow in places that I'd prefer not to mention.

That being said, there are rocks about, but that is typical for Breck.  You need to be able to read terrain, predict where the snow coverage will be good, and ski those areas.  Even then, you may very well encounter a rock or two just at/below the surface, and these can have an effect on your gear and/or health.  A week ago, I peeled one of my Mantra's off on an obscured rock in Lulu and slid more or less the entirety of the bowl.  No damage to me, but it did virtually destroy my ski.

Don't be too scared to ski the off-piste at Breck; there is good skiing now there.  Just use your noggin (to think, not as the penetrator in a ground penetrating projectile sense) and ski smart.

I have no information on Keystone; I don't ski there.

Mike
post #5 of 20
Skied Breck today. Peak 8 & 7 only. Horseshoe is nice, as is Porcupine. Most of the trails to the skier's left of T-bar are fairly good, but the wind blown rollers aren't as soft as they might look. Take care with those. Peak 7 was nice from near the top and Y-chute was ok. The bumps are firm, but the soft snow on top that we just received softens it a bit.

Groomed is good all around Breck (from other days experience). Trees are marginal.

Think Snow!
post #6 of 20
I would talk to the Angrysnowboarder.  He's there everyday when he escapes from the ski shop for a few hours.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all of those reply's...
Sounds like the groomed runs are in pretty good shape at both places...
Hopefully that will continue...
Crazy year for snowfall...

Think snow...think snow....think snow...
post #8 of 20

Breckenridge

Betsy and I skied Breck this Super Bowl Sunday.  We were pleasantly surprised at how well the entire mountain skied and at the same time thankful that more people enjoyed attending the SB parties.   Regardless, with a dry Jan and I suspect Feb, provided Breck can maintain the occasional 2 or 3 fresh the groomers should ski fine until the projected snowfalls of Mar/April for the central mountains.  Then all hell breaks loose with the entire mountain opening up prime at this hill and others   

We skied each Peak and concluded [obviously] the best snow was found off top Imperial either hiking up the ridge of Imperial bowl or traversing over into Whale tail all the way to the boundary of upper peak 7.   T-Bar wasn’t bad and skiing the North Bowl side was less worrisome underfoot than the Horseshoe side as anything tight left you had to look well ahead carefully before you committed.

Chair 6 was its normal cattle zone around 10:30…nuff on that.  We spent some time looping the mid station of 8 SuperConnect skiing Mach 1 [right side of bump course] or Tiger under the chair where you had to pick your side [for us; left upper, far right lower] to miss some nasty’s in the narrows.  We also jumped on E chair where that skiing was better than expected [Windows closed] although still well below ‘normal’ conditions.  For example, Devils Crotch had more stump exposure than normal, lots of pine heads and some rocks exposed lower at the choke point.  Peak 10 skied okay with only some scraped hardpack in spots on upper Cimarron with it generally fast enough for a quick ride over Flapjack.  Mustang was open but we did not head in rather spent the time heading back to Imperial and the T bar.  With a final warm up coffee/tea at Vista Haus at 3:00, we finished out on the SuperChair until it stopped.  Good day skiing and I hear NO beat ManPayton and the commercials were average.

post #9 of 20
Skied Breck today for 1/2 day. Mostly on peak 7 and a few runs over on peak 8. The conditions were better than I expected, and I was a very enjoyable day. Conditions consisted of some soft powder atop crusties and there are a few rocks showing but not too bad. We skied Beaver Creek on Sunday and I would rate Breck condition nearly as high as Beaver Creek on Sunday.
post #10 of 20
How crowd was Beaver Creek on Sunday? I'm planning to go on March 07 (sunday).
post #11 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks to all for the info...
i too would like to know how the crowds were...breck and elsewhere...
post #12 of 20
I skied Breck on Superbowl Sunday and Keystone the day before.  Breck was reporting 5" overnight snowfall.  I was 2nd chair up Imperial when it opened.  Patrol only had one line open and we dropped into Imperial Bowl from underneath the lift.  Conditions were 5 - 7 soft on top of hard bumps.  Things got a bit better towards the bottom. 

The line wasn't too long so we went back up on Imperial.  A crowd was gathering at the rope waiting for Patrol to open the gate to George's thumb.  I was the third person through the gate.  I follwed a couple of guys as we traversed across Whale's Tale to Y chute.  I had to negotiate one rock field, but then I dropped in and got first tracks.  On that side it was softer and very nice. 

My third trip up Imperial was about 30 mins later.  We hiked from the chair up a bit to in order to traverse over to Easy Street.  We went down next to the barrier set up by patrol.  It was much softer than our first run in Imperial bowl, but more cut up.  By this time Wacky's, Zoot, and 9 Lives were open and looked like they were skiing pretty nice, but we didn't want to hike that much. 

At Keystone - all of the groomers were in good shape.  I did two laps off the Cat in North bowl.  First line was outerlimits to Christmas tree.  Second time was same but traversed further over to Corral.  Conditions were suprising soft and fresh in the trees.  But still need to be careful with line selection.  All in all, that was great fun!  Oh, they had reported 3 inches of fresh before we went there on Saturday.

Back at Breck, peak 7 groomers are in good shape.  We hit all 4 peaks on sunday, oh and we dropped into the trees in the area called The Burn.  Not too many exposed hazards, but big soft bumps.    Hope that helps.
post #13 of 20
agree on the groomers -- was at Breck a week ago (before Superbowl week).  Peak 7-9 are much better in the last 3 weeks, most of the nasty stuff is finally buried.  More snow this last week too.  Haven't been to Keystone since before the new year, but most reports oddly enough show far more snow at Breck than K'stone/Vail/Beaver Creek/A basin this year.  Breck is touting like 55" of base now.  
post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by ms402402 View Post

 We skied Beaver Creek on Sunday and I would rate Breck condition nearly as high as Beaver Creek on Sunday.


+1

 

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Originally Posted by Abras View Post

How crowd was Beaver Creek on Sunday? I'm planning to go on March 07 (sunday).
 


Beav is a church on Sunday [also note Beav is experiencing a poorer than normal start as compared to its big brother next door]


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Originally Posted by Timr1 View Post

The line wasn't too long so we went back up on Imperial.  A crowd was gathering at the rope waiting for Patrol to open the gate to George's thumb.  I was the third person through the gate.  I follwed a couple of guys as we traversed across Whale's Tale to Y chute.  I had to negotiate one rock field, but then I dropped in and got first tracks.  On that side it was softer and very nice. 

 

 Aha!  I knew we saw you pushing out front.  Although it appears you didn’t hear us all yelling at you work harder and drive that traverse line a bit higher up before you dropped in  

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Originally Posted by job151 View Post

  Breck is touting like 55" of base now.  

 

What’s whack is the ‘base’ reporting Breck has been providing showing 55-57” while Summit/Eagle resorts report mid mtn ‘base’ ave for Summit/Eagle counties of 30-40”. 

WP is saying 57” at summit but that kind of reporting means nothing.  Hell, Telluride-Durango-Silverton Mtn-Wolf Creek have legitimate rights of base reporting from 55-106”…but Breck?  As I and some other have mentioned, Breck is skiing well but not 57” worth of rich…and I just don’t see 57” about Imperial.

Again; for an anticipated dryer Feb I think Breck will ski well on piste IMO.  And as of this last Sunday my internal gage born out of years of rock, pine and stump and base repair experience puts Breck currently at best 36” of real all mountain skiing.  Not sure if this 57” exaggerated ‘base’ reporting was intended this season or if someone is smoking dope at Breck…

…pops, sorry, a whole bunch of folks are smoking there now.

 I guess I answered my own question 

post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post

 



 Aha!  I knew we saw you pushing out front.  Although it appears you didn’t hear us all yelling at you work harder and drive that traverse line a bit higher up before you dropped in  

 


Yeah, you're right.  The guy standing next to me was joking that it was going to be like boarder cross from the x-games when the rope dropped.  Then everyone started yelling to each other to just relax and not run over anyone.  I went through on the lower right next to the pole and a few more skiers got by me as I merged up onto the higher traverse line.  I counted probably 6 - 7 skiers in front of me on the traverse.  It took all of the will power that I had to make the traverse and not just plunge straight down into the pow.  I'm still pleased with the lines that I selected and I dropped then traversed when my quads were burning.  By the time I got around to the far side, there was just me and maybe 3 - 4 others.  At least 3 continued on the traverse.  :)  I was like a junkie and I needed first tracks.

I do realize that a marginal 5 inch dump in a low snow year would be considered mediocre conditions by a Colorado local's standards, but I'm from Alabama.  And, we missed the snow on three different trips west last year [Tahoe, Mammoth & Utah].  So skiing anything soft was really nice. 
post #16 of 20
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Originally Posted by Timr1 View Post

Yeah, you're right.  The guy standing next to me was joking that it was going to be like boarder cross from the x-games when the rope dropped...  

Then everyone started yelling to each other to just relax and not run over anyone.  I went through on the lower right next to the pole and a few more skiers got by me as I merged up onto the higher traverse line.  I counted probably 6 - 7 skiers in front of me on the traverse...

It took all of the will power that I had to make the traverse and not just plunge straight down into the pow... 

I do realize that a marginal 5 inch dump in a low snow year would be considered mediocre conditions by a Colorado local's standards, but I'm from Alabama.  And, we missed the snow on three different trips west last year [Tahoe, Mammoth & Utah].  So skiing anything soft was really nice. 

Good on ya  

That first rope rush can be one big cage match…another analogy is the swimming section of a tri…ya gotta hold your line and not let others influence it despite the mayhem.   

Your comment about ‘will power’ is spot on!  It applies interestingly too many things in life and skiing first or near first line is as visceral as it gets waiting for the drop…[second only to another well known activity I suppose  ]

Well done and a great attitude.  We’ll have to join up with you on your next visit out…post up.

post #17 of 20
Thanks Don, and BTW, I was with 4 other guys from my trip party.  Three of them were on boards, and I fully evoked 2 of the powder day rules when the rope dropped:

1.  No friends on a powder day  (I just took off)
2.  no pictures.  (my camera was dead anyway and I forgot to get new batteries.) 

I had not time for either...it was game on and I was on a mission.  That's one of the best runs of my short ski career. 
post #18 of 20
I'm going to Breck at the end of Feb......do I need skins to access the sidecountry or is it just bootpack/traversing?
post #19 of 20
 Beaver Creek was not overly crowded on Super Bowl Sunday.  Overall, I'd say lines were low, and runs were crowd free.  Although I didn't have to wait long for my Epic Burger ($15) and my Gatorade ($5), we did end up eating outside due to crowds.  Probably just bad timing, but obviously I was hungry as the Epic burger is one LARGE creature!  

I was most impressed with Breckenridge.  It's definitely skiing the best, as I spent my time on Peak 7 & 8 the following day.
post #20 of 20
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Originally Posted by tsproul View Post

I'm going to Breck at the end of Feb......do I need skins to access the sidecountry or is it just bootpack/traversing?

define sidecountry

At Breck, there are gates to Peaks 9 and 10 (same gate) and Peak 6. This is backcountry access. These lead to out-of-the-resort terrain; you are on your own. Anything within the boundary is boot or traverse.
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