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Poll Results: You're driving on a two-lane, no-passing mountain road, and cars are lining up behind you. How many cars behind you before you pull over?

 
  • 45% (18)
    1 to 3
  • 22% (9)
    4 to 6
  • 20% (8)
    Doesn't matter, I never pull over.
  • 7% (3)
    There are cars behind me? I didn't notice.
  • 5% (2)
    Does this have something to do with why everyone is flashing their lights?
40 Total Votes  
post #1 of 50
Thread Starter 
This question occurs to me when I'm stuck in a line of vehicles behind someone driving very 'carefully.'
post #2 of 50
If I'm slow. it 's time to pull over.   1 or 2 it's their problem.    After that where is the wide spot?  Irritated drivers do stupid things.
post #3 of 50
 1-3 but only if there are no cars in front of me....

I drive super far back from people and cant stand being close to people in front of me.
post #4 of 50
i whip out the ducati on those roads and these things dont happen to me.

wait are we talking about in the winter with skis on our vehicles? oh ok then 1-3..
post #5 of 50
What'sa behind me does a no matter.
post #6 of 50
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 1-3 but only if there are no cars in front of me....

I drive super far back from people and cant stand being close to people in front of me.
 


I am pretty similar.  I have been rear ended a few times & am totally paranoid of tailgaters.  Even though it is extremely rare for someone to want to go faster than me, I will pull over at the earliest possible time to let someone get by me, even if it is only one car, no problem.  By the same token, I will pass anyone in front of me as soon as possible.  I don't have any confidence that they will not do something stupid & wreck in front of me blocking the road & possibly causing me to miss first tracks on a powder day, this is unacceptable.  I always try to leave plenty of extra time to reach my destination when road conditions are not optimum.
JF
post #7 of 50
if the roads are fine summer roads I push my pickup to the limit and leave the assholes trying to follow me, if its winter driving Ill let whoevers tailing me pass, even if its one, then i watch em ditch it and take out my trusty tow strap to pull them out
post #8 of 50
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Originally Posted by snowyphil65 View Post

if the roads are fine summer roads I push my pickup to the limit and leave the assholes trying to follow me, if its winter driving Ill let whoevers tailing me pass, even if its one, then i watch em ditch it and take out my trusty tow strap to pull them out

A pickup ... Can't imagine any worse car to push to the limit on fine summer mountain road...
post #9 of 50
Flawed.  Needs a sixth option:

This has never, ever happened to me.
post #10 of 50
I like BF's answer best for me.  I'm usually trotting along just fine.

I keep a paint ball gun handy to shoot up the windshields of tail gaiters

OK maybe I don't, but sometimes I wish I did.

How bout the people that pull out in front of you on to the mountain road making you almost lock it up only to go super duper slow and back everything up behind you???
post #11 of 50
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Originally Posted by Bob Lee View Post

This question occurs to me when I'm stuck in a line of vehicles behind someone driving very 'carefully.'
Bob,
Was that you behind me on Hyde Park Rd flashing and honking? My daughter was trying to get up the road to SF the Thursday after the big dump a couple of weeks ago and the road was closed because someone was stuck/wrecked.
post #12 of 50
My choice :
Quote:
There are cars behind me? I didn't notice.

After all, I'm eye-talian and we don't use no stinkin' rear-mirrors....paisà!


Seriously though, I'm usually respectful of speed limits and expect others to do the same so, if a tail develops behind me, it's because we're crossing a village, where usually there's a 50 km/h speed limit. Wherever there are higher speed limits...no problems, no tail.
post #13 of 50

Depends on what type of mountain road you are talking about. There are mountain roads and then there are 'mountain roads.' On switchbacks, there often isn't enough room on the side to pull over, unless you like going over the side into a ravine. 

On two-lane mountain roads with an emergency lane and enough room, it depends on the circumstance. If the speed limit is 45 and I am already doing 50 and cars are piling up behind me, I don't really think about it. If someone follows real close to the point that an emergency braking on my part would cause an accident, that's when I use the finger.  I am not giving priority to slowing down to pull over so someone can do 70. If I am doing 35 in a 45 zone then that's a different story. I would let people pass. 

 

post #14 of 50
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

I like BF's answer best for me.  I'm usually trotting along just fine.

I keep a paint ball gun handy to shoot up the windshields of tail gaiters

OK maybe I don't, but sometimes I wish I did.

How bout the people that pull out in front of you on to the mountain road making you almost lock it up only to go super duper slow and back everything up behind you???
 


yeah, it's easier to follow in fog or heavy snow, than to lead, so tailgate, pass, crawl. lack of experience to blame.

I always rock the best  tires I can find, so I never pull over. If I can't go any faster, neither can you. Driving in snow for over 40 years, so I'd trust myself to make the call. However, I'd work with someone in a nasty storm, sharing the lead in some way that solved some problem.
post #15 of 50
 Back when I used to drive on real mountain roads it was not much of an issue. Most of the people on the road when I was driving were locals and they all pretty much knew how to deal with bad road conditions. Now that I am stuck in the flat lands, it gets to me a bit when some guy in his Corvette is putzing along in the snow. Not my fault you have a car that is shitty in the snow, pull over and let me pass. Drivers here go all to hell if there is even a dusting of snow on the roads.
post #16 of 50
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Originally Posted by irafar View Post


A pickup ... Can't imagine any worse car to push to the limit on fine summer mountain road...

 

If its a gravel or dirt road it can be fun and, of course, exhilirating. Its not how fast you are going, but how close to the limit you are that thrills. Life isn't all about DH and Lamborghinis. Sometimes its ski cross and pickups. Try bombing along the Potash Road from Moab to Schaeffer Canyon in anything but an off road ride. Different strokes.

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Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post

Flawed.  Needs a sixth option:

This has never, ever happened to me.

 


See Potash Road above.

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Originally Posted by Nobody View Post

My choice :
 


After all, I'm eye-talian and we don't use no stinkin' rear-mirrors....paisà!


Seriously though, I'm usually respectful of speed limits and expect others to do the same so, if a tail develops behind me, it's because we're crossing a village, where usually there's a 50 km/h speed limit. Wherever there are higher speed limits...no problems, no tail.

 

+1. Usually the speed limit is what I'm traveling, so while I voted 4-6, that rarely happens.
post #17 of 50
yeah, when then are all locals on the road on a good ski day, everyone is flying. You look around and you can tell by the vehicles that they are locals.

It really gripes me getting stuck behind someone in some stupid cute little 2 wheel drive POS, VW Bug the other day, oh,, it's so retro cute, or the Mini, give me a break, or that little tiny box copy of the mini, equally rediculous up here. If you ski, don't buy these things, or leave them at home. Pleeeeeease!
post #18 of 50
When I'm skiing out of my home territory, I like to get to the hill early and I like to take my time to enjoy the scenery.  Since I know that 90% of the other cars on the road are resort employees who make the drive every day, I take the first opportunity to let them pass.

I have no problem with the patrollers and the lifties beating me to the hill.

There's nothing wrong with being slow.  There is something wrong with being slow and in the way.  If I'm slow, I try to stay out of the way. 
post #19 of 50
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post


It really gripes me getting stuck behind someone in some stupid cute little 2 wheel drive POS, VW Bug the other day, oh,, it's so retro cute, or the Mini, give me a break, or that little tiny box copy of the mini, equally rediculous up here. If you ski, don't buy these things, or leave them at home. Pleeeeeease!

I've never seen a VW bug or a Mini stuck in a snowbank beside the road.  From my experience, it's mostly SUVs and Pickup trucks that litter the sides of the highways.

Back in the day when almost all cars were RWD, the VW bug was the best snow vehicle out there because it's rear engine placed the weight over the drive wheels.
post #20 of 50
To borrow from another mountain driving thread, it really is about drivers, not vehicles. Experience and forethought versus inexperience and testosterone. Of course you are going to see more SUVs in the banking. Everyone in the city has one to drive their kids to school every day and to the resort once a year.

At the risk of sounding like a defensive PU owner, I don't see that many PUs in the ditch. Mostly SUVs and FWDs. A false sense of invisibility (funny spell check correction ) invincibility seems to come standard with SUVs. PU owners are often working dudes that have a respect for their vehicle and the road.
post #21 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpfreaq View Post

Flawed.  Needs a sixth option:

This has never, ever happened to me.
 
Having tried to follow bumpfreaq I can attest to this while holding my hand on a bible.

I voted 1-3 cars, when in fact I would use good judgement in the location of pulling aside.  Those places aren't always easy to find on a mountain road.

That being said.....
Sincerely this has not happened to me because I'm fairly confident about driving in wintery conditions, and tend to stick with traffic quite well, however I've been a passenger in the car with a couple people in my life who drive "cautiously" (being polite with the term cautiously) who pay no attention the line of traffic behind them.  Upon more than one occasion I've urged him/her to pull over to let a few cars go by to no avail, which drives me nuts!!
 IMHO showing little regard to others on the road is a sign of someone who shows little regard to people in general.
post #22 of 50
I voted 1-3 but this never happens to me either.  I drove up to 7 Springs Saturday morning at 7AM and it was blissful; not another vehicle to be seen in my direction of travel.
post #23 of 50
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Originally Posted by snowyphil65 View Post

if the roads are fine summer roads I push my pickup to the limit and leave the assholes trying to follow me, if its winter driving Ill let whoevers tailing me pass, even if its one, then i watch em ditch it and take out my trusty tow strap to pull them out
I always let anyone pass as soon as it's safe to pass, even if it's only one car and even if it's only been there a few seconds.
OTOH the last guy who passed me in the snow lost control a few minutes later and almost killed his whole family on Taconic Parkway.

BK
post #24 of 50
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post



Having tried to follow bumpfreaq I can attest to this while holding my hand on a bible.

I voted 1-3 cars, when in fact I would use good judgement in the location of pulling aside.  Those places aren't always easy to find on a mountain road.

 IMHO showing little regard to others on the road is a sign of someone who shows little regard to people in general.

 
+1
post #25 of 50
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

It really gripes me getting stuck behind someone in some stupid cute little 2 wheel drive POS, VW Bug the other day, oh,, it's so retro cute, or the Mini, give me a break, or that little tiny box copy of the mini, equally rediculous up here. If you ski, don't buy these things, or leave them at home. Pleeeeeease!

Actually, every time I'm stuck behind some slow drivers on a 2 lane road, it's usually a big SUV mopping along or having trouble staying in the lane on the curve! Many locals have 2 wheel drive fitted with snow tires cruise along perfectly fine.

And that's not counting that SUV that ran off the cliff and end up stopping traffic for 2 hours while rescuers trying to "scrape dead babies off the hill side"!!! (quoting one rescuer's word)

post #26 of 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by davluri View Post


It really gripes me getting stuck behind someone in some stupid cute little 2 wheel drive POS, VW Bug the other day, oh,, it's so retro cute, or the Mini, give me a break, or that little tiny box copy of the mini, equally rediculous up here. If you ski, don't buy these things, or leave them at home. Pleeeeeease!
That reminds me of the time I was I was driving over Ap Gap in my Civic with 4 Blizzaks.  I stopped to help a guy who had spun his Tahoe or some other SUV POS.  A couple of us pushed him back into the road.  Just to prove that no good deed goes unpunished, everybody who stopped to help him had to follow the a$$ hole all the way German Flats Road at about 3 mph. 
If you have skills, it doesn't much matter what kind of a car you have, as long as it's not way to powerful and it has the right tires.

BK
post #27 of 50
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Originally Posted by Walt View Post

... From my experience, it's mostly SUVs and Pickup trucks that litter the sides of the highways.

 

in tahoe this is caused by the buffoons from the bay who drive their 90k SUVs and hummers 5 MPH and still figure out a way to go off the road. they're called clueless drivers.

any car can drive somewhere near the speed-limit in snowy conditions if the operator isn't a a fool.  if you are a fool, get out of the way and let people who know how to drive pass you.
post #28 of 50
When I'm driving I feel that my first responsibility is to my family and/or to other occupants of my car, so I drive the speed I'm comfortable with.  Generally, I only pull over once per trip, and only if it will alleviate a one-time blockage.  Using some numerical number of cars behind you to decide when to pull over is not smart, IMO, because: (a) if you're counting cars in your rearview mirror you're not watching the road, and (b) when does it end? -- you might have to pull over multiple times, distracting you from the main task of driving carefully.  

All you guys cursing behind me, what's the hurry?  If you watch your cholesterol, eat right, and exercise regularly, you'll live long -- plenty of time to get in all the skiing you want.   
post #29 of 50
It's a lot easier to pass people on this

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Originally Posted by juhocha View Post

i whip out the ducati on those roads and these things dont happen to me.

wait are we talking about in the winter with skis on our vehicles? oh ok then 1-3..


But when the weather is bad, it's best to bring something with traction control.
post #30 of 50
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

I like BF's answer best for me.  I'm usually trotting along just fine.

I keep a paint ball gun handy to shoot up the windshields of tail gaiters

 

it's cheaper to toss a bunch water out of your sunroof, then throw about 50 napkins out right after.  That'll get em off your ass.
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