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which skis are Fun for Short Turns, Slower to medium speeds?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hello. 

Could you please recommend skis that are FUN? 

Turny, quick,  easy to initiate,  performs at slower speeds,  good for eastern groomers,

fun short, carved turns.


I only weigh 150lbs & like shorter skis.  I'm guessing many slalom skis would be too stiff.

THANKS!!!    Would a Fischer Progressor 8 +  be a good choice?

I don't know much about new skis, but I am an expert skier.   I'm realizing that much of my time is on the blue groomers.   

THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY THOUGHTS!
post #2 of 21
Head SuperShape.  Not Magnum, not speed, just plain old Supershape.
post #3 of 21
The need for the flex index rears it's insignificant and irrelevant head.

this is easy and should be inexpensive. 43mm dif waist to tip, soft flex, cap construction, foam core, raised tail, easy angles on the edge tune, length to your mouth, matched to a 80ish boot. every major manufacturer makes one. there you go.
post #4 of 21
expert skier short skis blue groomers fun easy to initiate

Check JONG-Head skis and specifically their SuperGaper  Pro Model.
post #5 of 21
 can ya ski bumps?
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by apeyros View Post

expert skier short skis blue groomers fun easy to initiate

Check JONG-Head skis and specifically their SuperGaper  Pro Model.
I ski Head skis sometimes.
I ski blue groomers sometimes.
I like skis that are easy going most of the time.

I guarantee I ski better than YOU all of the time. 

Tool.
post #7 of 21
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Originally Posted by apeyros View Post

expert skier short skis blue groomers fun easy to initiate

Check JONG-Head skis and specifically their SuperGaper  Pro Model.

In a rare, refreshing moment, a guy (mp) is honest about his ability and what he enjoys skiing, provide enough information for people to really help him out.

then, wham! you f ' with him. not cool.

I'd like a pink slip (ski receipt) auto-challenge (like street racing for pink slips) for these moments. some dude brags and puts someone down, he has to have a ski-off with anyone who challenges him, winner gets all the other guys gear with receipts and the right to tell the tale right here.
post #8 of 21
Head supershape is an excellent suggestion, Rossi classic 70 would be good also.
post #9 of 21
I don't have anything against Head skis. But guys who say they are experts and ski blue groomers all the time, don't know the fuck about equipment and want a ski that is easy to initiate on groomers (is there a ski that is difficlult to initiate on groomers!?) make me laugh.
post #10 of 21
Whiteroom

how can you guarantee anything  if you don't even know me? 
post #11 of 21
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Originally Posted by apeyros View Post

 (is there a ski that is difficlult to initiate on groomers!?) make me laugh.

Compared to a Head Super Shape, yes; I can think of a few.
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by apeyros View Post

Whiteroom

how can you guarantee anything  if you don't even know me? 


That's when the braggart's auto-challenge  is most risky and interesting. If you'd actually seen a guy ski, it would be meaningless. To go entirely off internet claims is what makes it so.....unknown.

It is imperative to list the gear that will be risked to prove the point. It could be an event at the gatherings: all challenges are recorded for the year and skied off in front of the whole Bear group as a panel of score judges.

Note the OP said thanks twice. I take that to indicate his maturity, maybe even a few years on the boards. Perhaps not a young man, which, by the way, is no sin. (in and of itself)
post #13 of 21
Some of my friends that have the Atomic Metron 9 really enjoy them for what you are doing. With a radius of 11 - 12 m, they can be difficult to keep straight when flat, but rail on the edge. That's what I hear, but I have not been on anything like this yet. I am looking for some now.
post #14 of 21
Atomic names their models to indicate stiffness, like about 6 thru 11. So the nine is pretty stiff. And even Atomic has abandoned the beta cap construction haven't they?  so this is an outdated model? 

I skied the R-11 Ex, or R-EX model after some time on the 9-22 and 9-18, and grew to hate the ski, especially when provided some other models of similar demensions as a basis of comparison. A decent idea in its time, but that was many years ago.

No, I wouldn't recommend a stiff older model Atomic to anyone wanting a fun, forgiving ski. 
post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by mpskier View Post

Hello. 

Could you please recommend skis that are FUN? 

Turny, quick,  easy to initiate,  performs at slower speeds,  good for eastern groomers,

fun short, carved turns.


I only weigh 150lbs & like shorter skis.  I'm guessing many slalom skis would be too stiff.

THANKS!!!    Would a Fischer Progressor 8 +  be a good choice?

I don't know much about new skis, but I am an expert skier.   I'm realizing that much of my time is on the blue groomers.   

THANKS AGAIN FOR ANY THOUGHTS!
 
"Turny, quick,  easy to initiate,  performs at slower speeds,  good for eastern groomers,
fun short, carved turns."
"I only weigh 150lbs & like shorter skis.  I'm guessing many slalom skis would be too stiff."


Sounds like me, most of the time.
I'm 5'1" and 135 pounds, and ski Prog 8+ at 150cm. I think they are great skis, and a good value.

But, a true "EXPERT" skier will be bored with this ski in about 5 minutes.
post #16 of 21
A couple weeks ago I demo'ed about 10 skis looking for a fun carving ski for the local hills in western Quebec. I bought a pair of Blizzard SLRs (167cm, 13.5m radius). I found the 13 to 14 m skis about right for aggressive carving without the insane speeds my old GS skis required. I also skied the Sonic (lost composure at speed) and Supersonic (longer radius) at the same hill. I also skied the Head SS Mag, Nordica Spitfire Pro and several others at a second hill. The Blizzards were all freshly tuned while I don't think the others were touched all season.

Having about a dozen runs on the SLRs, I packed them up and headed for the Rockies (2 days @ Fernie + 1 @ Lake Louise) having never skied in the west. They were great on all the groomed runs I skied (including the WC downhill runs at LL). Composed at any speed I wished to ski them and not too demanding when I wanted to relax. They are scary going straight (base flat) even at low speed as the edges are aways trying to bite. I found inconsistent soft snow (ungroomed runs) a lot of work to control the ski but it may just be a lack of confidence in those conditions. The also didn't feel good on a couple mild bump runs I tried.

FWIW I'm 5'8", 200 pounds, 33yo, raced in high school and am still fairly aggressive. You may find the ski too stiff for you at 150 pounds.
post #17 of 21
 wow I think apreyos an whiteroom would actually like to ski with each other.

My 170 SS mag are pretty sweet groomer/skiing bumps like an instructor skis not hopeless off trail, but I am blaming them on my broken nose today because I am perfect and my crap smells like strawberries. 

Progressors are another awesome choice.

most of these skis will work just find what you feel comfortable on.
post #18 of 21
get mogul skis.

and guys everyone thinks they are an expert skier if they can manage to get down most of the runs at their local 1k foot vertical hill with 30 trails 
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
yes i ski bumps, but only when they are fun.  icy bumps don't excite me anymore.
post #20 of 21
Thread Starter 
>>expert skier short skis blue groomers fun easy to initiate

Check JONG-Head skis and specifically their SuperGaper  Pro Model<<

that's funny, i did laugh out loud when i read that.  when i first read it, i thought it was from my friend matt who turned me on to this place.

anyway, i teach a 7springs, and want a ski to have fun on while teaching the kids on the greens & blues.    and also entertain me while using the high-speed lift between shifts.   flying down the hill makes it go too quick!

i have volkl tigershark 10s and nordica mach 3 powers & they're great, but when i ski the greens & ez blues . . .   i have some old salomon 3v equip slaloms that are more fun on the greens & blues, but they feel a bit like ice skates.

anyway, thanks to everyone for their suggestions!  i have skills, but i have no skiing ego & don't keep up with equipment much.  the only reason i stated that i'm an expert is to find the right ski for me.  

the fischer rx8 fti fire sounds like a good fit.  it sounds like i'd prefer it to the progressor 8+.   any thoughts on it & where to find it?  used now i guess.  THANKS ALL!
post #21 of 21
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Originally Posted by apeyro

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(is there a ski that is difficlult to initiate on groomers!?) make me laugh.

There sure seem to be several such skis.  Here's how to compile a list:  look at the rain of out of control skiers bombing past you on any "blue cruiser" and note which fat or ueber-stiff skis they're on.

The second part of the answer is:  most skis because their edges are all banged up and they've never seen a file.  Try them on some New England powder for a new definition of fun

mpskier gave a refreshingly clear description of his needs.  There are a handful of skis particularly well suited to them.  Why did you choose to ridicule one of them?  And him?
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