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Arcteryx Jacket Sale

post #1 of 17
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Anyone looking at the Arcteryx Fission AR or Sentry jackets may want to check out shoptrailblazer.com . They have a couple of sizes left in red ARs and black or blue Sentrys for 200 and 240 off respectively. I got lucky and found them through an online search. I tried to post this using my iPhone, hope it works.
post #2 of 17
I am tempted.  Does that sale price of 299 for that type of arcteryx  jacket come around several times a year?
post #3 of 17
I don't have that answer, but if it's not their Goretex model, the price is not such a rare opporturnity. IMO, based on lots of (window) shopping those types of jackets.
post #4 of 17
it is goretex with insulation too, goretex jacket is something i've needed for a long time.  too old to use plastic trash bags anymore in the rain
post #5 of 17
I bailed on Arcteryx, after owning several of their items, because most of their hoods stow in the collar. I hate that construction. check it, as, IMO, a jacket's collar is pretty important as a storm feature, and hood stowage collars by and large suck compared to a specialized, designated storm collar, and I assume that's why you want Goretex and liner. Of course if you ski with a hood, you're good with their concept.

Was on the chair with a guy that had a jacket with a hood. It seemed he mostly was skiing without the hood. It was blowing on the chair so he brought it up. It was filled with snow.  coooold 
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

I bailed on Arcteryx, after owning several of their items, because most of their hoods stow in the collar. I hate that construction. check it, as, IMO, a jacket's collar is pretty important as a storm feature, and hood stowage collars by and large suck compared to a specialized, designated storm collar, and I assume that's why you want Goretex and liner. Of course if you ski with a hood, you're good with their concept.

 


+1, good point!
post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Both jackets are supposedly insulated gortex pro coats. As mentioned above, the hoods do store in the collar. This does make the collar bulkier when the hood is stowed. With the collar out , they should be like most other hard shells. I had heard good things about Arteryx , so when I saw these prices I ordered the Sentry. It is designed to have a very high collar in the front when zipped up. I haven't tried it ouside yet but it seems very comfortable and should be great when the wind is blowing- guess I'll find out. The back hem is also slightly longer than some jackets. That's something I know I will like on the lifts during cold weather. If interested, the Arteryx website has lots of details , and backcountry. com has some informative reviews on both jackets (although last time I checked both jackets were still full price there) . And if you don't have a shop nearby that sells these and you need a size medium like I do, this is a pretty good price- I've looked. Jim
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

I bailed on Arcteryx, after owning several of their items, because most of their hoods stow in the collar.

This would be wrong.

SOME Arcteryx jacket (Fission AR for instance) do have stowable hoods, but the majority have specialized storm hoods.
post #9 of 17
The SV series has stand up collar and seperate hood... non- removable but there when you want it.
post #10 of 17
excuse my stupidity, but I thought Fission AR was one of the models proposed in the OP. And count them. You'll find very  few with a removable hood, at least in hard shell models. the very most popular models have zip in hoods, crappy lumpy collar resulting. what is a specialized storm hood? a standup collar with a hood you'll never use is a PITA, IMO, an Arcteryx concession to a 19 year old's idea of ski fashion. and if you're an Arcteryx rep, tell me now, so I don't look for objective information.

really, one of us is FOS, and for me it wouldn't be the first time, but tell me which hardshell models have removable hoods vs stowable hoods, storm hoods or not.

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by bjames View Post

Both jackets are supposedly insulated gortex pro coats. As mentioned above, the hoods do store in the collar. This does make the collar bulkier when the hood is stowed. With the collar out , they should be like most other hard shells. I had heard good things about Arteryx , so when I saw these prices I ordered the Sentry. It is designed to have a very high collar in the front when zipped up. I haven't tried it ouside yet but it seems very comfortable and should be great when the wind is blowing- guess I'll find out. The back hem is also slightly longer than some jackets. That's something I know I will like on the lifts during cold weather. If interested, the Arteryx website has lots of details , and backcountry. com has some informative reviews on both jackets (although last time I checked both jackets were still full price there) . And if you don't have a shop nearby that sells these and you need a size medium like I do, this is a pretty good price- I've looked. Jim


Thanks. that's now as clear as any icicle, or East Coast Blue Ice.

I had a jacket with a stowable hood and began to dislike the way it laid, stood. I cut out the hood and threw it away as the raw cut was then hidden in the collar. Then I got some neoprene and gave the collar the right amount of stiffness with no bulging or crumpling.

Their stuff can be very good, but that collar design is a bust and a major deal-breaker for me.
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post

excuse my stupidity, but I thought Fission AR was one of the models proposed in the OP. And count them. You'll find very  few with a removable hood, at least in hard shell models. the very most popular models have zip in hoods, crappy lumpy collar resulting. what is a specialized storm hood? a standup collar with a hood you'll never use is a PITA, IMO, an Arcteryx concession to a 19 year old's idea of ski fashion. and if you're an Arcteryx rep, tell me now, so I don't look for objective information.

really, one of us is FOS, and for me it wouldn't be the first time, but tell me which hardshell models have removable hoods vs stowable hoods, storm hoods or not.


Stupidity excused, but the backtracking is funny. OK, so first it's "I bailed on Arcteryx, after owning several of their items, because most of their hoods stow in the collar.", then quickly becomes "models proposed by the OP" to minimize the stupidity factor.

Anyway, I won't fully take the let's get into your level of jacket detail bait (what, not only in medium green with darker cuffs as a criteria?), but if we use you initial statement, well, a quick look at the Arcteryx site shows the Fission SL - WHOA - the SAME jacket but with external hood!!!????? - who woulda thunk dood.

Oh, and others with external hoods include Alpha SL and SV, Beta AR and SL, Sidewinder SV and SL, Stingray, Theta, Atom, Kappa, Epsilon, FURY, Venta and Gamma have external hoods. Yep, nothing in the line that would satisfy Mr. core.

Maybe what the OP sorta coulda thought as a criteria next?

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Originally Posted by davluri View Post





Thanks. that's now as clear as any icicle, or East Coast Blue Ice.

I had a jacket with a stowable hood and began to dislike the way it laid, stood. I cut out the hood and threw it away as the raw cut was then hidden in the collar. Then I got some neoprene and gave the collar the right amount of stiffness with no bulging or crumpling.

Their stuff can be very good, but that collar design is a bust and a major deal-breaker for me.

Stupidity regained.

Going to go three for three?
post #13 of 17
This isn't important enough for me to make you feel insulted or disregarded. And then of course get the harsh response it seems I have coming.  

But what I ski is a jacket with a removable, separate hood, nothing in the collar, nothing bobbing along behind me that I can't cut off and throw away without making a mess of it. I think you have referred to several models with permanent hoods that still have a collar. Is that correct? All I know is that the shop I go to all the time has a couple models with permanent hoods. stowable or not I don't know.
post #14 of 17
I like my palisades jacket, hood is collar stowable or removable. Take your pick.
post #15 of 17
I have a sidewinder SV that has the hood in the collar, and I don't find it too thick to work with when stowed, however it's not an insulated jacket.  For me if the weather is so bad I need the storm collar all the way up, I'm wearing the hood too.  The Fission AR has an insulated collar, so after you stuff the hood in there it's pretty thick.  It also depends on how you put it in there.  If you are just going to stuff it in the collar it's going to be thick, if you fold it flat with some care it doesn't take up much room.

Hoods are always a trade off.   Those that won't remove or stow away make nice snow holders when you crash, or if it's dumping and you aren't using it. Most of the designs I've seen that do remove the attachment is not all the way across the collar.   I hate that design because if it's really storming you get drafts/snow/rain into the neck/head area when using the hood which defeats the whole purpose of having the hood.  Those that stow away make the collar thicker, but at least in the case of the arcteryx models I've used they provide good protection when needed, even when stowed.

Another issue is the fission has no venting and it's the biggest downside of this jacket, if it had pit vents it would be stellar.  I own a fission SV and it's flat out too warm to wear here in NV, back when I lived in ND it was great.  I can't even imagine trying to use mine boarding/skiing in temps over 0F, I'd melt after the first run.   The other issue is the Fission I have at least does not have a snow skirt, and for me I crash too much not to have one :)

That said, even $300 is way too much to pay for a jacket now most likely made in China.  Arcteryx is still good quality gear, but their quality slipped a notch or two when they farmed most things overseas.   I was able to compare the same models (the Fission being one of them) made in both china and canada side by side and the quality control and seam/stitch quality are better on the canadian made stuff period.  These days I'd have to be getting a lot better price than $300 to buy an arcteryx jacket if it has made in china on it.

On the other the OP's post might save someone who was already looking to buy a couple hundred bucks so thanks to him for just trying to help people out.
Edited by Todd308 - 2/7/10 at 3:46pm
post #16 of 17
I have a Stingray with a hood and hated it at first.  After all what a stupid design not to have a removable hood...  BUT after skiing with it for a while and having the hood handy on the chair when it's cold!!!

I want to thank Arcteryx for such a great design!  I guess they were thinking after all.....

It's all about personal preference. 
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post




Stupidity excused, but the backtracking is funny. OK, so first it's "I bailed on Arcteryx, after owning several of their items, because most of their hoods stow in the collar.", then quickly becomes "models proposed by the OP" to minimize the stupidity factor.

Anyway, I won't fully take the let's get into your level of jacket detail bait (what, not only in medium green with darker cuffs as a criteria?), but if we use you initial statement, well, a quick look at the Arcteryx site shows the Fission SL - WHOA - the SAME jacket but with external hood!!!????? - who woulda thunk dood.

Oh, and others with external hoods include Alpha SL and SV, Beta AR and SL, Sidewinder SV and SL, Stingray, Theta, Atom, Kappa, Epsilon, FURY, Venta and Gamma have external hoods. Yep, nothing in the line that would satisfy Mr. core.

Maybe what the OP sorta coulda thought as a criteria next?


Stupidity regained.

Going to go three for three?

 


I can see you are passionate about this. And who knows but  wouldn't want to un-core anyone's jacket, but what is an external hood? One you wear outside your brain as opposed to inside your skull?
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