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instructors? yes or no.

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
was ski instruction a major part in pushing your skiing level to where it is? or did you observe and learn your self?
post #2 of 15
Excellent question. Would be very interested in hearing the answer.
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
maybe I should add that occasional instruction from friends and relatives doesn't count.(I was more refering to professional instruction.

OZ- which Question are you refering to, my profile or the topic?
post #4 of 15
that's not Oz - it's the impostor Psuedo-Oz!

post #5 of 15
disski - give you a clue. We have spoken on the phone Not imposter - just new.

The question I was referring to was whether becoming an intructor had a major impact on standard/technique of skiing.
post #6 of 15
Yes - I know it is you...

BUT....

Man from Oz is the original Oz on this site...

so you are the imposter Oz...
post #7 of 15
I have found that by reading the magazines with there instruction tips is a good starting point. All my big break throughts have been a direct result of instruction. It seems to help me tie all the pieces together. I have taken lessons and I'm lucky enought to have a few friends that are level II's and III's. I tell all who ask, "take a lesson". I will say that I have been in classes with people that don't come with a open mind, you can see them fail. I don't understand why someone would pay money to learn and then fight the teacher.
post #8 of 15
Thread Starter 
bumpity bump
post #9 of 15
Smithby

What would happen if you took a lesson and the instructor said the opposite of what you read here on a regular basis? :
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
I would try both and see what works better(duh).

BoB
post #11 of 15
I found the question ambiguous. At first, and the way I answered was as if the question was "Was your becoming a ski instructor a major reason why you improved your skiing so much?"

But, then I realized that the question was basically "Did you learn to ski yourself or through lessons."

Bob
post #12 of 15
Quote:
Originally posted by funkybob:
I would try both and see what works better(duh).

BoB
& how would YOU know which worked best?
post #13 of 15
Quote:
Originally posted by disski:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by funkybob:
I would try both and see what works better(duh).

BoB
& how would YOU know which worked best?</font>[/quote]I think WHAT he means IS which WORKS better for him.

If two people give different views on something about you, how do you decide which one is better? Do you try for yourself, or do you just keep on asking others until you get a 75% majority one way or another, and at that, who says you've asked a representative spectrum of people? No, sometimes it is necessary to make a decision on your own.

S
post #14 of 15
Funny... because my instructor & I have been having a LOT of talks about this during the current season...

He gave as an example his hsort turns while training for his level 3 exam... they FELT like poor turns TO HIM... but when he was shown the same turns on video he discovered that in fact the poorer feeling turns he had skied were actually not bad at all... Remember this guy grew up on skis racing (unusual in Oz)... he is currently a race coach in north america - he would consider he has much higher awareness of his skiing than the average instructor...

In a discussion with a friend of mine who is(was?) a dance teacher & studies movement physiology we talked about why a better movement can feel wrong to a student - quite simply they are used to their old movement pattern - so it feels more natural & hence more correct than the newer one... this is why many people ski a lot but don't get past intermediate levels... they do not spend the time required for a new movement to become a natural one...Hence they revert to the old pattern

I have spent all season with 2 instructors trying to convince me that I need to ignore my perception of my skiing atm - it does not match with the opinions of teh experts.... If I was asked I would swear I am skiing at a lower level than last year... but a whole bunch of instructors & race coaches seem to believe otherwise... The general belief is that I have developed my awareness to a higher level this year...

So again I ask for contemplation on the question - how do YOU know what works?

I tend to do my research on finding a teacher - then place faith in the teacher (with a LITTLE questioning along the way to make sure we are both stil walking the same path... )
If the teacher says the BAD turns are good/better - I stick with the movement until it improves, with only small groans about how I percieve the situation to check in with the guide
post #15 of 15
I know I'm lucky to have good friends that know the correct/accepted way to teach skiing.
Being a past race team parent, I have a son that let's me know when I look bad. The phrase "STOP skidding your turns" sticks out in my mine, he was 9 y/o when he said that.

I know that when you don't have inside info on who you want for an instructor, it's a crap shoot at best. But I have gone to other mountains where I don't have any insider info and have gotten great instructors.

I know there are some not so great insturctors out there. But you all have to learn your skills as a ski insturctor some where. I can accept that.

Funkybob,
I agree that it may not feel right at first, but as was said, you need to teach the muscles the new movement pattern.

Lurking bear, All you good guy's teach the same method.

[ October 03, 2003, 08:20 AM: Message edited by: smithby ]
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