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Video from Mammoth

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
Enjoy, and have at it.
Since this seems to be important, my intent was to make carvy fall-line turns. It's a bit of a sidehill with spring slush.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid20/p549dcb629d605c6f5d4ea7ef1c21ea7d/fdbaf8 0b.avi

Oh, BTW, Ryan worked the camera really well, didn't he?

[ May 17, 2002, 12:25 PM: Message edited by: milesb ]
post #2 of 33
milesb, passed by a knuckledragger, cmon. First take, you have nice rhythm and look relaxed. I think your turns to the right are a little smoother than those to the left.
post #3 of 33
nice turns, milesb. and some Damn Fine camera work by SOMEone.
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post #5 of 33
Love the music, and I want to ski JUST LIKE YOU!!!!!
post #6 of 33
Smooth turns.

When you turn, are you feeling your outside arm directing your turn? Seems so. If so, try to lead your turn with your inside part of your body. This will give more turn definition.

Just as the boarder is passing you, seems that your hips and head is behind your boots. If so, you're flexing too much at your knees rather than your ankles. Try to keep your hips and ears over your instep for fore/aft balance. Do this with slightly more forward pressure.

To help with this last item, and overall improvement, try more flexion/extention with your legs.

Overall-nice and smooth and comfortable skiing.

[ May 17, 2002, 08:32 PM: Message edited by: KeeTov ]
post #7 of 33
Nice skiing Miles--worth the half-hour or so it took me to download the file on my dial-up modem. Good ski use, nice flow and rhythm, and good basic stance.

If you want something to work on, take a look at the tendency to square up and rotate your upper body into the turn toward its finish. A lot of it may have to do with reaching forward with the downhill arm, in preparation for the next pole plant.

In any event, note that it coincides with a slight washing out of your downhill ski at the end of the turn. It's particularly visible in your left turns, toward the camera, but it happens in both, consistently. This is the notorious "abstem" that almost inevitably accompanies getting rotated. What happens is that the reach with the arm pulls the hips out (downhill) slightly, interfering with your edge control enough to cause the tail wash. This tail wash finishes your turn, whether you want it to or not, and requires you to set the edge (which happens once it washes out enough to create enough angle) before you can get into the next turn.

To your credit, you show very little rotation of the upper body INTO the turn--a common error that also usually results from (and can cause) rotating at the turn's finish.

So think of "driving" through the turn with your upper body, as you do, but avoid rotating your shoulders along with it. Steer the turn with your legs all the way through to its finish--wherever you choose that to be--and make sure that your entire body is in "neutral" at that point. Your control over your turn shape, ability to complete a clean turn farther around (if you choose), and smooth linkage into the next turn will all improve!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #8 of 33
Is the extension at the end of the turn done with the downhill ski? That is, for a right turn, would you extend from the left ski?
post #9 of 33
You know, I thought there may have been something going on with the downhill pole, but I could'nt really verbalize it. Interesting though, in no way did that ruin the entire visual for me.
Kind of got me thinking that maybe students are looking for a certain QUALITY to their skiing, as opposed to micro managing every element of their technique.

If I saw Miles free skiing in an instructor's uniform, I'd want to take class!
post #10 of 33
Bob Barnes -

I found your comments about 'the notorious abstem' very interesting - not that I would ever do something as foolish as that though!

- Tom(inator)
post #11 of 33
If you widen your stance a bit that will allow you to carve even nicer turns.
post #12 of 33
You're right, Lisamarie. Identifying something to work on does not mean a skier is not a good skier. The best in the world--whether World Cup racers, freestyle skiers, or instructors, always have something to work on. That's how they got so good!

Someone who skis as well as Miles should certainly be proud of how they ski. But never satisfied!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #13 of 33
: What viewer to watch clip????
post #14 of 33
Windows Media Player works for me. Nice turns. I'm ready for winter now. Bring on the snow. It's only MAY........arrrrrrrrrrrgh
post #15 of 33
Ah, thanks. That explains it. I'm on Win 95, incompatible, I think.
post #16 of 33

It runs in real player for me. I th ink that that will run in win95
post #17 of 33
Ta Miles.
Nice turns! I like the feeling you convey, of not being in a hurry to finish the run (i.e. reach the bottom).
OH, nice music!
post #18 of 33
Since we are doing more with this M/A, Pulling back to the top.
post #19 of 33
I can't get it to download
post #20 of 33
Hmm I can't either. Sorry guys didn't mean to get you all excited about another video. Looks like this link might be broken too.


If you still have this clip I can host it at my site so it doesn't take up the space at your host.

PM me.

post #21 of 33
Worked perfectly for me: 22 seconds of sweet turns from Miles.
post #22 of 33
Originally posted by jamesdeluxe:
Worked perfectly for me: 22 seconds of sweet turns from Miles.
Yup. I can right click and download but it's coming down real slow. windows media player still trying to connect after 5 minutes.
: zzzzzzzz.....

I'll play with it more later.
post #23 of 33
I downloaded the clip, then tried to run it with windows media player 5 twice, and both times it crashed the player and froze up my computer for a bit...

what gives?!

I blame you all.

I watch tons of videos, so taht's surprising.
post #24 of 33
That was some serious flow. milesb you're a ski freak.

nice sound track...

Can I wake up now?

bicyclekick!! u need to upgrade. It won't run on Win 3.11
post #25 of 33
The music is perfect for this run. I found my blood pressure dropping just watching milesb ski in time with the strings.

You don't need me to tell you that you ski very well. I see only a very slight glitch at the end of your left turn. I am looking at the movement of your right hand in preparation for the swing. It moves away from the upcoming turn as you are transitioning to the new outside ski, so the lighter right foot aligns with the heavier body mass and also moves away from the upcoming turn, producing a minute abstem. This impedes a smooth transition to the right turn and all because of a tiny little movement that happens at an opportune time to cause just the slightest bit of trouble.

That's how I see it anyway. It looks like you have been focusing on this, judging from the carriage of your arms. As Gallwey says, "Don't try. It only makes you tight."

[ November 05, 2002, 01:05 PM: Message edited by: nolo ]
post #26 of 33
Thread Starter 
Thank you nolo, glad you enjoyed it. I was singing that song to myself while making those turns, hence the perfect fit.
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OK, not being one of the "experts" I hesitate, but in spite of this would like to take a risk and offer some comments. I feel like this is more of a risk than posting a video of myself as I am putting my thinking on the line. So be nice, even if you think I'm all wet:

Milesb, it's fun to watch the clip and see you smoothly slither down that run. It is definitely done in a very nice "style." However, I do see a lot of up and down movement and little release from the feet. I think there is room for increased efficiency by initiated turns more at the feet and using more "retraction" as opposed to the unweighting you seem to use through up movement and extension. Also, I think that efficiency could also be gained from more active tipping from the feet as opposed to lower leg and body steering.
post #29 of 33
Si, none of that was REALLY happening. It was the camera.
post #30 of 33
Originally posted by ryan:
Si, none of that was REALLY happening. It was the camera.
Thanks Ryan, it's nice of you to blame the camera as opposed to a faulty analysis!
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