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Born Again Skiier in NYC desperately need guidance for equipment

post #1 of 19
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Quick background - I've picked up skis after 7-8 years hiatus.  I've been doing skiboarding (yes, yes i know, shame on me)

I'm out in NYC so mostly been hitting up the crappy slopes within the vicinity for a quick day trips and have actually been spending my weekends on the slopes in VT (Mt. Snow, Stratton, Stowe, Okemo, Killington etc.)

Equipment - I've been using old Dalbello Boots NX ?? for the past 8 years and bought used K2 Mod Axis Alpine 167 (also 8 years old or so) just to see if I would like the sport and much to no one's surprise I love it and am extremely addicted.

Long story short I'm thinking of investing in equipment.  I'm a pretty aggressive skiier, not that good on my feet yet, but shouldn't be long before i pick it up.  I consider myself a Level 5/6 currently and will be a solid 6 by the end of the season.

I'm 6'1, 185 lbs, 26 years old, and hit up mainly packed powder and terrain parks (small - medium jumps).  I do plan on hitting big powder in the west 2x a season or so.

So far I only bought poles as they were the most negligible and also on sale:

Poles: K2 4 Speed Silver / 50
Skis: (want) Line Prophet 90 (170)? - They seem to be the best 50/50 skis out in the market for a reasonable price.
Bindings: ?
Boots: ?

Any sugggestions or advice on equipment would be greatly appreciated!  I'm freaking addicted and want to make my experience a lot better.



post #2 of 19
Well you own poles so everything else should be smooth sailing form there...always good to get the most important equipment first.
post #3 of 19
Buy a pair of eastern ice skates for local skiing.  Something relatively narrow-waisted with lots of edge grip.

Then rent wide boards when you travel out west for the "big powder".
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
i see you have prophet 100 - what do you think of the prophet 90? whats the big difference!?
post #5 of 19
Thread Starter 
thanks edge grip and narrow-waisted!
post #6 of 19
You need boots, not skis.
Nyc- Manhattan Jeff Rich at US Orthotics. Will recommend boots. He's expensive.
Emilio's Ski Shop in Queens.
Otherwise: Green Mountain Orthotics - Stratton
Boot Pro - Okemo
Peak Performance- Killington
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
huge - thanks for the recommendations
post #8 of 19
Find a good bootfitter, it's the most important part of your gear.  As for boot recomendations, forget them, that's why you need a good bootfitter.
post #9 of 19
Dude: I  was poking fun before. Your poles and bindings are the least important things to consider at your point. I agree with the comments above. Your first priority is boots. Get yourself a good, well fit pair. They can make or break your day. You can always (mostly) demo a good pair of skis.

The 90's and the 100's are different skis. I have the Legend 8000 as my daily driver. I was debating between the 90 and the 100 as my new addition. I went with the 100 because it was more of a different feel. (That and SJ's recommendation - really) Both are excellent rides. The 90 is better ride the frontside but the 100 tears it up as well for a ski that fat. I love the feel of the 100 but have not had it in anything deep yet. Neither are truly East Coast oriented skis. You need to find out what feels good and what you really want in the ski.

I would seriously recommend that you demo before you drop cash on anything.

Originally Posted by derekhkan View Post

i see you have prophet 100 - what do you think of the prophet 90? whats the big difference!?
post #10 of 19
Thread Starter 
awesome - thanks nyskier55.  i am going to invest in boots and worry about the rest after my feet are happy
post #11 of 19
Agree about the boots.  The #1 thing to take into consideration when buying boots is that they fit your feet.  Gizmos, widgets, features, color, etc etc don't matter - the important thing is that they fit your feet.  Since everyone's feet are shaped differently, you can't buy boots based on the fact that somebody else likes them.  But you can find a  knowledgeable  experienced boot fitter who has practice at fitting boots to other people's feet.  That's the best bet.

Then, once you get a good pair of boots, you can continue to ski on your K2s while you demo newer models.  Try several kinds of skis and buy what suits you.  I like a grippy narrow-ish ski for Eastern Firm (TM) conditions and a wider board for soft snow.  YMMV.
post #12 of 19
Boots first.  Get in touch with Billy Kaplan, Cantman on here. He is located in PA, less than 2 hours from the city. He doesn't sell boots, but he will do an analysis of your feet and anatomy and make some recommendations. Once you get the boots, he will get you totally dialed in. I just spent 3 hours there yesterday getting aligned in my boots. There is no pressure to get you into a specific boot as he doesn't sell them.

I also own the Prophet 90's. I'm your weight, without the height. I'm on the 179's and they feel short. They can handle anything, but they are not my only skis. For more typical EC days in this area, I'm usually on my Fisher RX-8's. Just more fun on a hard snow day.  But I'm shipping my P90's to Utah today, to use next week.
post #13 of 19
Can second the recommendations of Jeff Rich and Green Mtn Orthotics - Both have fitted boots for me and I've been very happy

If you're really paranoid and don't trust anyone, see Jeff for a recommendation - that will cost you $150 these days. He doesn't sell boots and so that won't influence his opinion. He can fit them as well, but you'll have to buy them first and pay him several hundred dollars more (he's gone from expensive to absurdly expensive) and he's limited to the extent that he can only make footbeds and add padding where required. He doesn't have the facilities to do any shell work (stretching, grinding, etc.). For that, he'll send you somewhere like Green Mountain.

Green Mtn. is right on the hill at Stratton - you can ski out the back door for a test run. Very convenient since it's rare that everything is perfect out of the box; if any tweaks are required, you're right there. I would suggest you call for an appointment - they can be very busy on weekends. You'll certainly find better prices on boots, but you get what you pay for.
post #14 of 19
As I've told my cheep friends, boots are not something you buy on Ebay!  Good Luck on your search.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
thanks RatherWorkThanPlay - i'll check out the Fisher RX-8's as well.  I'll see what i can do to get to Billy Kaplan (Cantman)
post #16 of 19
Thread Starter 
thank you Gary, i'll be up to Stratton again - so will definitely check Green Mtn out as will.  Seems like i just have to try, try and more try.  
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
As i was going to go down that route - thanks for the advice bob4snow - i'll hit up a brick and mortar and try it out there
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
 thanks everyone - i got fitted and ended up with the Salomon Impact X7 with some solid insoles.
post #19 of 19
Glad to hear it!  Next time you're on the slopes with someone who got their boots on the cheap and they brag how little they cost; wait an hour or so!  When their feet hurt that couple of hundred dollars they saved means nothing.  Then you can brag how comfortable your boots are! 
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