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MX 78 vs MX 88

post #1 of 11
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Okay, everyone has me convinced to give Kastle a go.  Is there a big difference between the the 78 and the 88?  They are spec'd out pretty similar, with the 88 being slightly wider and a slightly longer turning radii.

I am probably on piste about 60 to 70 percent of the time in addition to patrolling at a midwest hill.  Just trying to see if there is one thing that sets one above the other.
post #2 of 11
Per the infamous Kastle Book, err...."Brochure":

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The MX78 is an on-piste master with enough versatility and flotation to rip backside turns.

The MX88 is a true freeride ski with unrivaled power, stability and control to handle every imaginable condition on the mountain.

Edited by Alpinord - 2/3/10 at 8:04am
post #3 of 11
I bought a set of mx78s 2 weeks ago from Dawg - you can see my comments tagged onto his "mx78 video review"

I bought them on the small size. I'm 5'9", 160 lbs and got the 168cm because of their intended use in my quiver.  They are superb carvers on hard snow, very good in bumps, good in light powder and crud. I prefer my Mythic Riders in crud/windblown - but it's more fair to compare the Mythic to the mx88.

Dawg is about my size and has the 178cm mx78 which he says are more powerful than the 168 but not as turny/playful (as expected).

Out here in Coloado if I had to choose one of these for all-mtn duty, I'd likely go mx88. But in the midwest I'd think the mx78 is the way to go.
Edited by The Squeaky Wheel - 2/3/10 at 10:28am
post #4 of 11
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Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel View Post

Out here in Coloado if I had to choose one these for all-mtn duty, I'd likely go mx88. But in the midwest I'd think the mx78 is the way to go.
 
I would agree with that.  The 88 would be overkill for the midwest.
post #5 of 11
If you go with the 78, I would suggest the KTi plate. 
post #6 of 11
Phil,

to what degree does the kti plate detract from the off-piste experience?
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by thelipper View Post

Phil,

to what degree does the kti plate detract from the off-piste experience?

It is one of the few plates that has a minimal effect for off piste skiing, I considered long and hard about putting a KTi plate on my MX88's I liked it so much. Rarely have I seen a plate add so much with taking so little. 
 
post #8 of 11
very interesting.  do you happen to know the stand height when using the plate?

hopefully i'll get to try it both ways--week and a half until aspen!
post #9 of 11
 I just skied the last two days on a 78 mounted flat with Mojo 15s. It's nice for it to be flat, snow feel is good, but I prefer it with the plate. I normally ski the RX with plate and just skied 4 days on a plated MX88. I'd say MX78 KTi for the OP.
post #10 of 11
interesting discussion regarding flat v. plate.

I didn't have a chance to demo with plate. The shops I visited in Vail and Snowmass sell Kastle's flat.

After some internal deliberation I mounted my 78s flat with Mojo 12s. Feel is excellent. Not sure what/if I'm missing - the differences were described to me as very subtle. And there is a big price tag for the plate w/Marker binding v. mounting flat.

I spoke with our Kastle rep about it and was told that the plate allows the ski to flex "more naturally," plus there's the bit of extra lift. Not sure how much either matters.

Is the plate only compatible with the proprietary marker bindings, or can any binding be placed on the plate?
post #11 of 11
here's the different offerings from the site. There is a 12 and 14 version of the KT. there is also a KT Ti which appears to be the same toe and heel but no plate.  Don't know the advantage of that over a grif'/jester
http://www.kaestle-ski.com/en/product-line/hardgoods/k12/

http://www.kaestle-ski.com/en/product-line/hardgoods/k12-ti/
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