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Problems with Lange Fluid 80 - Looking for Advice

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Alright, thanks in advance for ANY help that can be offered because I'm on my last nerve with these boots. Sorry for the length but I prefer to give you all the info needed.

Stats-
I'm an int-adv skier and love skiing everything on the mountain, don't spend as much time in the tree's as i did a few years ago but still love it. Mostly groomed or light powder at all different mountains in the NE

Skis-
K2 public enemys(new) and salomon scrambler Xs(old)

Boots -
Had some cheaper nordica boots that I had been riding in forever and just last year bought the langes

Last year I went to what I heard was a well regarded boot fitter in Westwood, MA. Ski Stop (www.skistopmass.com/)

The boot fitter there spent quite a bit of time with me, he went through some flex measurements on my ankles and analyzed my foot 6 ways to sunday. He called out that i had played either soccer or another sport where I ran in cleats alot.

I tried on a wide variety of boots and narrowed it down to lange fluid 80 and a nordica model I don't recall. After 20+ minutes in the boots in the store, they felt great and I bought them. He heat molded the liner and made some adjustments to the fit and I was on my way.


First couple days on them I was in a ton of pain and was very unhappy. I went back and he took a look at the fit and ended up keeping them for a few days and making some adjustments. He said he widened the boot around the spread of the balls of my feet and adjusted a few other things, not much detail was given.

Ski again and its a little better but not much, I go back again and now the fitter installs some meta-tarcel pads under both feet because he believes my food is collapsing and rolling in the boots.

A few days skiing and its not much better and theres the odd feeling of the pad sticking into my feet. I tried a pair of surefoot insoles that day on the mountain and with them cut and the correct size the insole was actually getting scrunched up and my pinky toe and some of my foot would end up over the edge of them.

Now this season so far I removed the pads he installed because they felt terrible and I've attempted to ski.

What I'm experiencing is pair and numbness fairly quickly but no real pressure point to target. I don't feel planted in the boots and I feel like i had too much movement/odd movement in the ankle area.

I have tried cranking them down and skiing in them barely tightened on all 4 buckles (special care to the inside foot buckle as to TRY to not cut off circulation) and it doesn't seem to make a ton of difference. My feet get incredibly cold quickly which also seems to be a symptom of poor fit. I don't get any blisters and it just seems to be an overall aching

I called the boot fitter and any more modding and analyzation I will have to pay for. I guess my question boils down to do you think this is fixable with more modifications/work or should i try to sell them and abandon lange and try to find a new boot?


Thanks and again sorry about the length
post #2 of 7
So your boots are the right size, AND you are doing everything else right, but still the boots are not 100% right. These questions will help a boot fitter will have a better understanding of the problem and can start to help you. Better Or Worse = (BOW)

1) BOW with the buckles tighter or looser?

2) BOW with thinner or thicker socks?

3) BOW with any footbeds (custom, stock, none, etc)?

4) BOW skiing, standing, or feet un-weighted (hanging off a chair lift)?

5) BOW thru out the day (and when does the pain start?)

6) BOW on the first vs the third day?

7) BOW on harder or easier terrain?

8) BOW with the power straps (velcro straps) tighter or looser?

9) BOW if you do any particular movements, or actions?

10) Any medical, health, or weight changes since you used them last?
post #3 of 7
Give us your stats---weight -/height/ shoe size/length of foot in CM (not a shoe size please)

Thanks
post #4 of 7
i will stick my neck out without having any more info available and make guess that you have a limited amount of flexion at your ankle, common with soccer/football players and runners/cyclists etc etc and probably the biggest cause ofr problems we see in a ski boot, difficult to say without seeing the whole set up but it is possible that a simple heel lift may solve all the problems... it could on the other hand give you a whole heap more issues which is why it needs to be done in store with afitter

good luck getting this sorted
post #5 of 7
Hey calmbomb, this is one of the bootfitters at Ski Stop. Give us a call.  If we are working on persistent issues and our past remedies have not resolved the issues, we do not charge.  We can only fix things if you come back.  I apologize for any miscommunication if you called the store this season.
post #6 of 7
Thread Starter 
Stats-

5'9" 160 pounds

The lange shell is a 26.5

I'm a 10.5 shoe , I don't have anyway to get an exact CM measurement at the moment but ill try to tonight.


1) BOW with the buckles tighter or looser? seem to be better looser

2) BOW with thinner or thicker socks? i've only tried really one thickness of sock and they are medium weight ski socks

3) BOW with any footbeds (custom, stock, none, etc)? stock footbed vs. surefoot 30$ insoles, the stock felt better

4) BOW skiing, standing, or feet un-weighted (hanging off a chair lift)? skiing and unweighted are MUCH better than standing

5) BOW thru out the day (and when does the pain start?) 5-10 minutes into getting my skiis on, initial walking in the boots is fine

6) BOW on the first vs the third day? same

7) BOW on harder or easier terrain? better on harder it seems but not sure if i'm just thinking of too much stuff to really notice, and a more downhill ankle angle feels better

8) BOW with the power straps (velcro straps) tighter or looser? no change as far as i can tell

9) BOW if you do any particular movements, or actions? feel better leaning forward to notch my foot back in the boot, but not 100%

10) Any medical, health, or weight changes since you used them last? no all same medically and within 5 pounds of weight during use



Thanks for all the help agian, and burg - ill try giving you guys a call later this week to see if i can come up.
post #7 of 7
talk to burg.   he can actually see your feet , and boots and try stuff.  this is really the best way
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