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2011 Kastle LX82 w/ CTi binding

post #1 of 24
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See review here:

http://www.epicski.com/products/2010-11-k-stle-lx82/reviews#1165

The LX series is a new line for Kastle for 2011, it consists of two models the LX72 and LX82. I had a chance to demo the 82 in "good eastern conditions" which was fresh groomed over firm hardpack but with minimal ice patches. I along with the LX82, I skied the FX84 in a 176, MX78 KTi in a 168 and RX70 KTi also in a 168. 

 

The LX is a bit of a departure for Kastle, it is a lower, "more obtainable price point" package at  $1099.00 with a new Kastle designed Marker binding, the CTi. Physically the ski looks unmistakably like a Kastle, with simple timeless graphics, like the MX, white with metal "Kastle" and "82" inlays, where it differs from the MX, the LX does have a cosmetic cap but is a sandwich construction through and through. What is surprising is how light the ski feels both to the touch and the feel on the snow. This feels like the ski Goode has been trying to build, light, nimble with a super high quality feel. I have mentioned in the past that the Mx Series feels like a Porsche 911 series, the FX feels like a Cayman and the car that comes to mind for the LX would be a Lotus Elise, simply put Kastle took a page from Colin Chapman's book, they "added lightness". The LX was light and playful and still a fantastic ski at speeds and on firm snow. It had a huge sweetspot and I think it will be a great choice for all but the most powerful skiers, but that is who the MX series is for anyway. 

 

If you are a lighter finesse skier and will be looking for a great high performance ski next year, make sure that you put the LX82 on your list, it lives up to the quality and performance of what you would expect from a Kastle.

 

post #2 of 24
 Probably a stupid question, but what's the Kastle-Marker connection?

BTW--Good review.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
 Like many independent ski manufactures, Kastle went to Marker for their bindings. With Kastle's commitment to big mountain and back country along with high performance all mountain, Marker was an obvious choice. 
post #4 of 24
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 Probably a stupid question, but what's the Kastle-Marker connection?

BTW--Good review.
Kastle makes skis, Marker makes bindings... symbiotic relationship.
post #5 of 24
What color were these? Do you know what sizes they will be released in? Also how would you compare these to the FX84's which are also a light and nimble ski?

Thanks
post #6 of 24
Thread Starter 
The new LX is white similar to the MX line. Although they are light like the FX, they do have a different feel, think Legacy GT wagon vs. Outback XT or Audi A4 vs. Audi A4 Allroads (if they offered here in the states). These will be released next year, I will shoot you a Pm when my stock arrives. 
post #7 of 24
And I heard they will have a lime green tip (yuck!) ? Dumb question... but can you swap out the nose color? I am just picky on what skis look like... aka I hate ugly ones!!
post #8 of 24
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Yes, they are lime, they kill it on the snow. If you are concerned about an accent color you will be missing out on a very nice ski. 
post #9 of 24
I can probably get over the color, its only the tip. How much will you be selling these and they come with Marker Griffon bindings?
post #10 of 24
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Kastle makes skis, Marker makes bindings... symbiotic relationship.
 
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post #11 of 24
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I can probably get over the color, its only the tip. How much will you be selling these and they come with Marker Griffon bindings?


 As the original thread says, they will sell for $1099 w/ the CTi, the Griffon will add about $100.00. The CTi does work quite well though. 
post #12 of 24

How would LX82's compare to FX84's?

Im thinking about getting one of those for east-coast (vt) use only.  Just skied a week in Vail on MX 98/88 & FX 94 and loved FX94's the most (a bit more forgiving/less demanding but still very stable on groomed and lighter/quicker than the MXs in the bowls/glades)

 

Reading the reviews it sounds like FX84 is going to be very similar to FX94 (with 84 being more appropriate for the east)

Should i also consider LX82s?  and what are the trade-offs?

 

Im 6'0"/200 lbs... very solid on the grooms but starting to venture more and more into trees/bumps.

any help would be appreciated.

thx

post #13 of 24
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How would LX82's compare to FX84's?

Im thinking about getting one of those for east-coast (vt) use only.  Just skied a week in Vail on MX 98/88 & FX 94 and loved FX94's the most (a bit more forgiving/less demanding but still very stable on groomed and lighter/quicker than the MXs in the bowls/glades)

 

Reading the reviews it sounds like FX84 is going to be very similar to FX94 (with 84 being more appropriate for the east)

Should i also consider LX82s?  and what are the trade-offs?

 

Im 6'0"/200 lbs... very solid on the grooms but starting to venture more and more into trees/bumps.

any help would be appreciated.

thx



Since you skied and liked the FX94 and mentioned that you are looking more for the trees, I would say the FX84. 

post #14 of 24

ivid, I'm about your size and probably quite a bit older and ski mostly in the East. I don't try a lot of skis and haven't been on the FX84. I've been skiing on Nordica Nitrous with which  I've been very happy. They have lots of days and are now completely toasted.  I demoed the LX82 in 172 (whatever was closed to 170) at Stowe in very mixed conditions. Absolutely loved the LX82 in softer snow, cruded up powder, etc. Really playful, fun, and forgiving. Skied Liftline which was fairly icy and felt they just didn't hold as well as my old Nordicas. Without demoing I think the FX84 is probably going to be a better fit.

post #15 of 24

 

Title:  Review: 2011 Kastle LX82

 

Product:

 

Length: 180cm

 

Environment of Conditions:

okemo mountain, vt

groomers, bumps

dust on crust, soft - cut up

bought from starthaus

 

 

 

i own, prophet 90's, head IM78's, fischer rx8's, dyna 4X4's

 

 

Tester Info:

Age: 51

Height/Weight: 6'0 190 lbs

Average days on snow: 40+

Years Skiing: 20

 

Aggressiveness: moderate - depends on the terrain etc.

 

I met Philpug at Okemo last season. Since we've met I've been picking his brain for a perfect ski for Vt conditions. Many people know Phil here and value his opinion. So, in December, once again, I reached out for a ski recommendation for my son.

 

My son competes on the Okemo bump team with a lovely girl whose parents are close friends with Phil.  I emailed Phil and in a few short minutes, Phil offered to extend a pro form price on some specialized bump skis. The skis came as promised, Phil called our local ski shop, arranged delivery and even went to the trouble to swap out some brakes.

 

Last week, I emailed Phil once again to purchase the same bump skis for myself. After some back and forth, Phil advised me to buy the Kastle LX82's. I demoed Kastle MX 78's and didn't love them  (bad tune)

I also demoed mx 88's and thought they were very good. So Kastle was on my radar, actually the FX84. Quite honestly, I knew nothing about these skis and I had some anxiety; since I'm a tightwad and prefer to demo first. 

Phil offered me a great deal and I had the pleasure of speaking with Trekchick when I ordered the skis.Tricia told me, "don't worry, you'll love these skis"

 

Now to the review,  I skied these in bumps, from tight lines to spaced snowboard bumps, icy rut to powdery tops. Skiing bumps in 180's was a concern for me, however, the LX82's just gripped and ripped.

I was making tight turns similar to my 165 cm rx 8's with added stability. From zipper line to skiing the tops they just went wherever I pointed them. My legs never fatigued, these skis are so light and nimble.  Then I took a few runs on the skied off, re-frozen typical Okemo runs. The skis arced and held extremely well on long GS type turns and smaller fall line short radius turns. At the end of the day, the bottom half of the mountain turned into soft unevenly spaced bumps.I just pointed the Kastles and watched them comply. These skis are forgiving, they don't punish you for occasional backseat driving or losing focus. 

Bottom line, I cant' wait to ski tomorrow. The query is, what do I do with the rest of the quiver?

 

The skis and Starthaus are strongly recommended..........

 

 

 

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post #16 of 24
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Since you skied and liked the FX94 and mentioned that you are looking more for the trees, I would say the FX84. 


 

 

eh how about niether really....

 

there is never a day I would choose an 84mm waisted ski over a 94 mm waisted skis here for tree skiing back east. beside the best tree ski that kastle makes is the new BMX98.

 

and the BMX98 isnt as good as several cheaper option for tree skiing .

 

post #17 of 24
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eh how about niether really....

 

there is never a day I would choose an 84mm waisted ski over a 94 mm waisted skis here for tree skiing back east. beside the best tree ski that kastle makes is the new BMX98.

 

and the BMX98 isnt as good as several cheaper option for tree skiing .

 



I own the BMX98 and skied the FX94 for about 6 runs the other day. They compliment each other well. Gotta say the FX94 has a bit more bite, bit earlier engagement with the stiffer non-rockered tip, but still is surfy due to the tapered tip in soft snow.  The BMX98 would get the edge in softer snow, and it feels longer in 178cm (the FX94 is 176cm, and feels a good 4cm shorter in real terms).  The FX94 has slightly more pop, and feels slightly more relaxed than the MX88.  At my weight, it was one of the best skis of the day. I enjoyed it more than the Bushwacker in the tight spaces that Holiday describes in his "Line Prophet 98 review" (I was skiing with this group all day) and would put it up there with the MX88 and Prophet 98. I thought it they made the FX94 in 180cm, it would be spot-on for me, the 176cm felt a touch short for most of the speeds I ski.  

 

Also enjoyed the FX84 for skied-out stuff; the 94 was grippy enough though as well; probably the 84 if it was for bumps and groomers, the 94 for softer snow, trees, bumps, and fewer groomers. 

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I own the BMX98 and skied the FX94 for about 6 runs the other day. They compliment each other well. Gotta say the FX94 has a bit more bite, bit earlier engagement with the stiffer non-rockered tip, but still is surfy due to the tapered tip in soft snow.  The BMX98 would get the edge in softer snow, and it feels longer in 178cm (the FX94 is 176cm, and feels a good 4cm shorter in real terms).  The FX94 has slightly more pop, and feels slightly more relaxed than the MX88.  At my weight, it was one of the best skis of the day. I enjoyed it more than the Bushwacker in the tight spaces that Holiday describes in his "Line Prophet 98 review" (I was skiing with this group all day) and would put it up there with the MX88 and Prophet 98. I thought it they made the FX94 in 180cm, it would be spot-on for me, the 176cm felt a touch short for most of the speeds I ski.  

 

Also enjoyed the FX84 for skied-out stuff; the 94 was grippy enough though as well; probably the 84 if it was for bumps and groomers, the 94 for softer snow, trees, bumps, and fewer groomers. 


 

 

the last thing I want is bite or eariler engagement really the skier can get all of that out of nearly any skis and to have the ski do it for you can me the ski does it for you when you dont want it to,

 

drive the skis and dictate to the mountain dont let the skis you and dont let the mountain win.

post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post




 

 

eh how about niether really....

 

there is never a day I would choose an 84mm waisted ski over a 94 mm waisted skis here for tree skiing back east. beside the best tree ski that kastle makes is the new BMX98.

 

and the BMX98 isnt as good as several cheaper option for tree skiing .

 



How do you know? Skied it yet?

post #20 of 24

boys, boys........

post #21 of 24

this is about the lx 82's.....

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How do you know? Skied it yet?


skied the 108......

 

the kastles are to stiff even the supposed softer ones, but its beside the point cna you imagine any day that you would really want a a bigger ski in the woods here?

 

post #23 of 24
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post




skied the 108......

 

the kastles are to stiff even the supposed softer ones, but its beside the point cna you imagine any day that you would really want a a bigger ski in the woods here?

 


This thread is about review and information relative to the LX82, please keep other chatter out, thank you. 

 

post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post


 


 

 

the last thing I want is bite or eariler engagement really the skier can get all of that out of nearly any skis and to have the ski do it for you can me the ski does it for you when you dont want it to,

 

drive the skis and dictate to the mountain dont let the skis you and dont let the mountain win.


Talking about re-freeze here, just a bit earlier engagement, not overly edgy, just a touch stiffer, a bit different feel either way that is easy to get used to.

 

Now back to our regularly scheduled program....I skied the LX92, and really, really liked it.  The 82 should ski about the same, just narrower.  I could see the 184cm LX92 being a great everyday ski out here for someone my size who likes faster speeds, and wants a longer but slightly softer ski than the MX88 provides.  The 174cm was poppy, fun, lots of energy, held well.

 

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