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post #121 of 137
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Made it back home after a bluebird day at Alta yesterday.

Dustyfog I hung back from most of the group as my ability level (or maybe just my confidence level) made me a little skittish of the steeps. But after the last three days i told Vince I am ready to step it up. I am sure there was a lot of that stuff I could have skied. Controlling myself in the bumps has really added a lot of confidence.

Bnf Solitude is my favorite place. Very relaxing and I finally discovered the other side Sunday. I got off the Summit chair and took a look at the traverse through the gates straight ahead into Honeycomb and it looked doable. But I was alone an no one to push me so I didn't do it. The drop off right there next to the chair is like vertical though! 

I hit some of those "blues that were blacks" not sure where that kid was but the ones I hit had some big moguls and steep. I think they actually were blacks and I missed the cat track to the blues cause it flattened out some after those couple of pitches.

I'm back the on 3/12 and Vince is gonna introduce to some of the stuff I missed this trip. I think I'm ready........

Skier219 good to meet you yesterday. Sorry I didn't go up Supreme but by that time by knees were done. I barely made it from Alfs back down to the base!
post #122 of 137
Did the demoing skis thing at Alta yesterday (really was more in the mood for PBR and Reggae vibes over Country Club vibes so DV was out - still want to check it sometime). A simply fantastic day. Mostly stuck to the groomers as I fell in love with the AC50s but did try out the Mantras and did some hiking in Devil's Castle (which blew me up pretty good, powder skiing novice here) and rode some other chop. At the end of the day I was back on the AC50s with a stupid grin on my face. Having blue bird skies and just fantastic weather made skiing there so much better than Sunday. Glad I did Alta a second time - I was feeling rather "meh" about it before - I loved it this time. 

And now today I head back home. =/
post #123 of 137
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LOL! Yeah they definitely have that reggae/hippie vibe going in the cafe bottom of Collins lift. Or the coffee/beer bar. The guy has all of that music on MP3 on his laptop. I alwayy end up meeting some cool folks in there. Lots of people who remember the 60's and 70's....vaugely
They played a reggae cover of "Dark Side Of The Moon" Monday morning first time I've heard that.

Glad you had the blue skies again Tuesday and I bet not a crowd either. I have AC30's and really like them the 50's are a real nice ski too, especially for out there. Little stiffer and more under foot. I demoed them on a typical icy day at Sugar and the 30's felt a bit more forgiving and maneuvrable to me that day. I think the 50 is the perfect ski for Utah. Maybe add a really fat powder board for those bottomless days.

Speaking of which they are calling for a foot next day or so. Hope it pans out for the folks out there.

I am not a great powder skier either. How did you find Castle? Was it real hard? They had just opened it about 11 am Monday as I was riding the Sugarloaf lift up and there was a line from the traverse start at the top of the chair all the way over to where it splits low and high.
post #124 of 137
thanks mr conz and your crew, will ski relaxed and take them one at a time, will be in Solitude last 3 days of March. DV 3 days before that, and Alta 3 days at the tail end of trip (going with my 6 year old, we've been to Alta as I mentioned earlier.
post #125 of 137
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LOL! Yeah they definitely have that reggae/hippie vibe going in the cafe bottom of Collins lift. Or the coffee/beer bar. The guy has all of that music on MP3 on his laptop. I alwayy end up meeting some cool folks in there. Lots of people who remember the 60's and 70's....vaugely
They played a reggae cover of "Dark Side Of The Moon" Monday morning first time I've heard that.

Glad you had the blue skies again Tuesday and I bet not a crowd either. I have AC30's and really like them the 50's are a real nice ski too, especially for out there. Little stiffer and more under foot. I demoed them on a typical icy day at Sugar and the 30's felt a bit more forgiving and maneuvrable to me that day. I think the 50 is the perfect ski for Utah. Maybe add a really fat powder board for those bottomless days.

Speaking of which they are calling for a foot next day or so. Hope it pans out for the folks out there.

I am not a great powder skier either. How did you find Castle? Was it real hard? They had just opened it about 11 am Monday as I was riding the Sugarloaf lift up and there was a line from the traverse start at the top of the chair all the way over to where it splits low and high.

Ya! between there and the Sunshine (?) Grill at Solitude I was loving it. Great vibe, esp with some sun.

I really wanted to try the 30s but they only had the 50s. Originally they had me on 163s which felt a bit jumpy, I bumped up to the 170s and was in love. Really perfect for out there.

Castle was pretty fun. Though I think I came in the other way off of Supreme instead of Sugarloaf (unless you meant lines from the Supreme chair!). The traverse/hike wasn't bad other than one dicey (to me) section you can kinda see here (heading in and coming out):

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The narrowness was fine to me it was just that at the bottom of that drop were two bumps that I was suddenly concerned about absorbing correctly along with that narrowness. =D

Once I got up past that and hiked a bit further this was my view:

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The actual skiing was very different than what I'm used to. All that chop was keeping me guessing (along with my general lack of any powder experience) and I did a flip with a twist in there at one point (both skis still on!). Finished the rest of the run well enough but then coming out of the area I crested a hill a little too quickly, caught unexpected air and saw a "tree" causing me to freak out a bit mid air and hit said "tree". "Tree" seen here (the thing in the middle, seriously ):

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Anyway, probably wouldn't make that hike again for chop but if it was fresh powder I'd consider it (though I don't know what you'd do if you were the first in at that dicey part).

Also you can drop in earlier for a shorter shot - I did that once and really enjoyed it. Less hiking and less skiing but decent practice. Probably should have done that a few times before hiking all the way in. =D Here's that line:

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All in all a great day there!

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(Oblig GMD/Collins shot)
post #126 of 137
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BNF at least you gave it a shot and made it! You sound a lot like me in that I get nervous about the same stuff. I need to try it and just do it like you did.

Looks like you came in off Supreme onto East Castle. yeah those narrow traverses with ups and downs are nerve racking!

The traverse I was referring to was off of Sugarloaf to the left into Devils Castle.

I am back there 3/12 for 3-4 days. Going to try some of this stuff. I can ski blacks groomed and even bumps, albeit slowly, so its time I stepped up and did some of these instead of just thinking about doing it.
post #127 of 137
Nerve wracking is a great way of putting it! It's definitely worth trying out, esp if you have a guide. The wrecks really didn't hurt other than the minor whiplash I got off my flips with a twist mess, haha. Was definitely a fun change of pace for the day to do some hiking for turns (which I like a bit of here and there).

As I told one person, glad I did it but don't know I'll be doing it again (well for some time, and at least not without a guide!). Was looking at the trail map and it looks like what I did was Castle Apron. I didn't do the climb up to the top of of it so I only did the lower part of it. The entrance for that part was off of Rock N Roll. I think. One thing that did surprise me was that there were some cabins back in that area during the run out. Didn't expect that.

Also I did end up hitting Deer Valley yesterday but only to use the restroom and to get a bowl of chili. =D The skiing looked pretty good too! May have to get my groomer on next time I'm out there.
post #128 of 137
 Yep, sounds like Castle Apron area.  My brother in law went in there all the way on Tuesday, and hiked about halfway up the bootpack before skiing down.  Me, I got lazy and seduced by all the powder down low, and hopped off the traverse into the trees about 1/4 of the way in.  I have to say, the terrain down below Castle Apron is a lot of fun.

Conz, if you can handle the hike uphill to get to the traverse into Catherine's, that is perhaps the best place to start exploring.  Don't be afraid to sit a spell and catch your breath at the top of the hike from the lift before you start skiing the traverse.  Coming from sea level, it always gets me winded.  Having tried all the options and comparing my pace with partners who skated or walked on skis, I just hike the whole thing carrying my skis (it's the fastest/easiest overall in my experience -- I always catch up or pass the skaters at some point).  

Anyhow, once skiing on the traverse, keep going and stay high whenever possible.  It's a fairly easy traverse (comparable to Ballroom in terms of pitch and wear/tear, only with far less traffic).  There is only one section where you need to scramble sideways up hill around a couple trees for about 6-8 feet.  Eventually you will come out to a big opening (the "Meadow") that leads to a couple easy ways down that are shaded so the snow is good (see #31 on the map).  It will be very obvious when you see the Meadow.  At the bottom, follow the tracks out and stay low whenever possible.  Soon you'll be back at the runout to the Supreme lift.  Overall, it's about a 20 minute adventure.
post #129 of 137
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Thanks 219! Again sorry we just chatted briefly but my legs were shot. That was the last afternoon of a 7 day ski all day every day trip. At my age (and weight) I'm surprised my knees help up that long!

I would like to try that. I assume off Supreme to the left. Is the trail obvious? I will probably carry my skis also if you found that the easiest way up. Sounds like you hike with skis off uphill then put skis on and traverse basically parallel to the mountain. Will look for #31 on the trail map. I always have a few cans of O2 to Go. I found I hadn't needed it yet the last couple of years but I still carry them more as a security blanket.

Later that day I went through the Forest Service gate off of Sunnyside, down the cat track and past the house with the cat, and jumped into the powder on the left intendeing to ski down through the trees to the groomed run that leads to Albion. It was bottomless and I crashed about halfway. No damage to me but one of my skis was buried and I had to hike back up about 10 yards and start sweeping with my other ski all the while sinking into the snow up to my waist. Talk about sucking wind! Finally found the ski, put it on, and stood there for about 10 minutes before I made it down.
Edited by theconz - 2/28/10 at 11:07am
post #130 of 137
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Thanks 219! Again sorry we just chatted briefly but my legs were shot. That was the last afternoon of a 7 day ski all day every day trip. At my age (and weight) I'm surprised my knees help up that long!
 

My knees sympathize with your knees at this point.  We bashed bumps for the first 2-3 days of the week, then drowned in powder on the last day.  After powder run #1, my legs were trembling from the combination of fatigue and excitement.  My wife has some sore legs too, though I think that is partially due to sprinting through Chicago O'Hare on the way back to make our connection.  Interestingly, our skis took a whole different route home from SLC, going SLC to Denver to Dulles to Richmond.  They just got home a couple hours ago, roughly 16 hours late!  Good thing that didn't happen on the way in.  The airline folks told us there was a huge amount of luggage coming out of SLC yesterday, thus some was shunted off to Denver.
post #131 of 137
Oh man that info on Catherine's is great. I had wanted to get back there but all the shots I liked seemed to be a lot lower than the beginning of the traverse off of Supreme and the way down to them not too obvious. I was planning on heading back there after Devil's but I was so worn out from fighting with the powder (trying to get my skis back on, haha) that I ditched the Mantras and got back to carving the rest of the day away.

Will def have to check it out some time.
post #132 of 137
Here a some pics/movies. Finally found some time to post.

Dirk, Vince, John and Daphne at Solitude 02/16
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Dirk, Nick, Vince, Steve, Daphne and John at Alta 02/18 Photobucket

Daphne in Alta powder 02/18


Diner at Beppo di Bucca's 02/18 Photobucket

Park City 02/20 (standing from left to right: Nick, Kevin, Daphne, Vince, Dirk, Mike and Steve. In front (the boarder) Phil) Photobucket

Phil and Daphne through Aspens 02/20



We had a great time! Largely due to all the people we met. Thanks everybody!
Edited by dirksuchy - 3/9/10 at 1:11pm
post #133 of 137
Ah, and a full report on Jackson Hole and Grand Targhee, including pics, will follow!
post #134 of 137
Dirk -
Good to hear from you.  I enjoyed skiing with everyone.
Don't know if you saw it, but my trip report is here:  www.epicski.com/forum/thread/92594/trip-reports-for-the-utah-2-15-2-22-anyone-gonna-be-there-get-together
post #135 of 137
Good idea! Will post our report there!
post #136 of 137
Dirk, looking forward to report. Nick (and I) really enjoyed sking with you and Daphne. He mentioned last night that he was rooting for Netherlands in World Cup coming up this summer. Aloha Steve
post #137 of 137
Folks, thanks for the advice, we are regrettably now back looking at the Atlantic and the Hudson River ! Anyway, short TR here...
www.epicski.com/forum/thread/93871/utah-spring-skiing-for-8-relentless-non-stop-and-just-exquisitely-beautiful-days#post_121487
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