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post #1 of 13
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Hi Guys


I'd greatly appreciate any comments, tips or critique on the video, shot a week ago on a easy slope in Avoriaz, France, during our 14 day outing. I have been working on a cleaner carve, staying more centred and/or forward, but I'm struggling to create the necessary angulation on steeper slopes to keep the speed under control whilst carving (on steeper terrain). Unfortunately I don't have any usable video of me attempting to carve on steeper (European) reds and black slopes. Whether my problems in creating the necessary edge angles is a mental or “technical” problem – I can’t really figure out

Maybe I should mention that since the video was shot I have bought new boots (Salomon X3 CS 10), in which I'm very happy, replacing my Lange Fluid 12's I'm wearing in the video. After playing around with the shaft canting on the Salomon's, I feel I'm able to get a cleaner carve, and to some extent also more angulation - although not nearly as much as I'm striving for.

Let me know what you all think :-)

(sorry guys, I haven't figured out how to embed, so I hope you'll take the time to follow the link)



(there - fixed it for you - Rusty - use the film clip icon next to the insert pic icon)

Thanks alot in advance




post #2 of 13
Looks pretty good Nicky.  Have fun with the new boots.  I would like to see some more dynamic skiing.  Get on the gas and charge.  Laying down a nice edge but there is a lot more angulation to to be had!
post #3 of 13
I agree with more dynamics. In your case I would try to bend the knees much more, and then lean inwards and extend when you enter the turn. At the end of the turn you should unload the skis by flexing the legs again. At the moment you seem to be adding pressure at the end of the turn. This is not necessarily wrong, there are different types of turn, but if you goal is to carve steeper slopes, my experince is that you either start to skid, or that you carve shallow turns and loose control of speed ( this is very common IMO, many intermediates seem to think they are experts just becuase they go fast and carve in the fall-line)
post #4 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback guys. Highly appreciated! I guess by being more dynamic, you are referring to  something like the discussion in the following link : www.epicski.com/forum/thread/25510/dynamic-skiing   ?

Jamt, when saying you would like to see some more knee-bending, are you talking about more "lateral" bending/flexion, or how should it be understood? You are spot on with the shallower turns at steeper pithces, and that's basically what bothers me so much - hence I try to apply pressure throughout the whole turn, making me later and later for each transition. Fortunately I've cured the skidding at the end of the turn.
Truthfully speaking, I was a bit astonished when watching the video for myself the first time in how slow the skiing seems - so maybe I should just let'em rip for the future and not hold back as much...

Anyhow, thank you very much for the tips and hips, hope to see much more comming.

post #5 of 13
Try doing "fishing hooks". Point your skis straight down and then carve a single left or right turn until you stop. Then do it again but get your knees closer to the snow and your hips more into the turn for every try. It's an easy way to build confidence in your skis and learning how much you can lean them. You might have to go straight longer and longer before doing the turn to get really close to the snow.
You could also experiment with starting with the straight skis pointing a little to the left if you are going right and vice versa.
post #6 of 13

A variant of the fishing hooks that I think works good on my juniors are to start off in tucked position straight down, then bank you body in the direction you want to turn. Then almost immediately push you ouside leg agressivly until it is almost straight, so that you have close to 100% pressure on that leg. That gives you a good feeling of how a turn should be initiated. it does not need to be steep, but some speed will help


Another good drill is the following:

it also shows what I mean with bending the knees. If you manage to do that drill you can just make it more aggressive and you are almost there.
My definition of dynamic is that it is not static. You are always in transition to something else.

It was originally posted by Carl in the "transition" thread.

post #7 of 13
The video is from someone else here. I found it in his videos when following another thread. :)
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi Jamt and Carl

Thank you very much on the tips - they both look very interesting. Hopefully I'll have the possibility to try them out this weekend! the fishing hook drill sounds like a logic and "safe" way to get a better feeling for higher edge angles.
Jamt, as for the (video)drill you are linking to, I'm a bit concerned that I might return to my previous back seat driving. something I have struggled to get out of, and now (think) I have cured somewhat. The way I have been working on getting out of the back seat is to have the feeling that my body (especially hips) overtakes my feet at transition, and feel that I'm leaning against the boot tongue - so much that now even a flex 120 boot feels quite soft (I'm also a big guy, 6'2 and 215 lbs - working on lowering the last number though). Any specific things I should keep in mind in relation to the video drill you suggest?

Thanks again very much guys. And anyone else - please feel free to chip in your 0.2$

post #9 of 13
It is a good observation that when flexing it is difficult to avoid the back-seat, becuase hip and upper body moves back. You should focus on shin-tounge pressure when you extend, or in other words, pull the feet back. Its ok to have a little back-seat while flexed, becuase you do not put much pressure in the skis at this time. Put your hands way in front of the body. This problem will however go away somewhat when you start to go steeper, because the center of gravity "line" will not be perpendicular to the skis. It is easy to have a good balance steep downhill, flat or uphill its close to impossible.
post #10 of 13

I really like the round shape of these turns above the fall line and the tall, centered stance.

See the pop up, the turn and then the "ride" before the next turn? Look at where your hips and shoulders face before you start a turn. We'd like to see them facing more to the inside of the next turn. This will let you stay balanced and develop higher edge angle that will result in the more angulation and more dynamicism that racer and jam are looking for.

My drill suggestion for you is Tug of War.

Stand with your skis across the slope. Have a partner stand parallel from you down slope. With one set of poles, both grab one end of the poles and try pulling the other up.down hill. The uphill person will find that they have the most strength with their legs apart, their hips and shoulders facing downhill , their skis on edge angle and their butt uphill of the skis and lower to the ground (than just standing straight up). The sensation you feel when doing this exercise are the same as you get from a dynamic turn.
post #11 of 13
Thread Starter 

Hi Again

Thanks very much for clarifying, Jamt, and Rusty thanks for the embedding (and tutorial).
If I understandand you correctly Rusty, you want me to stay more countered throughout the end of the turn - or am I getting it wrong?

Thanks a lot again all of you for taking the time.


post #12 of 13

We want to create counter through the bottom of the turn (from fall line through transition to the new turn) and release counter from the transition through the fall line. So when you are in the fall line, your skis and your upper body point in the same direction - down the fall line. When you are changing edges, the difference in direction between your skis and your upper body is the greatest. Counter is created or reduced by not allowing your upper body to turn as quickly as your lower body turns.
post #13 of 13
Thread Starter 
Rusty, thank you very much for the clarification!

And once again thank you very much all of you, it's admirable the time and effort you put in.

If any feel like chipping, please feel more than free to do so!

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