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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

Ok bears…

Me 5’10…240… strong intermediate, I can ski any blue and any black without bumps...I suck at bumps…

I am looking for that magic ski...Aren’t we all…

I have the no new snow/front side part of the quiver taken care of…
Don't ski switch..or park..no hiking for turns lift served terrain only...

I have a movement Goliath Sluff 184, 99mm underfoot..it does great on soft groomed runs,and in new snow a few inches deep,  but I think I need more underfoot, softer flex, especially in the tip…less bulldozer type of ski…

I am looking for that soft snow ski in the 110mm+ area…

Specifically I am looking for a ski for my favorite area…Chair 8 at Loveland…

Need to be able to get there and back..Those who know Loveland know what I mean…

No need to handle those 24”+ dumps, don’t get that much at Loveland…at least not enough to keep a ski in the quiver for…

Looking for a ski that will be playful and fun in anything 3” and up,  also in skied up pow, crud, windblown etc…

I keep reading more and more, the newer skis are softer and less like the powerhouse skis of old…making them much easier to ski and in turn much more fun…gotta love technology…

Sounds like the style of skis I would like…at  this point in my life I am trying to cram as much fun in as I can…I like pushing it just as much as the next guy…but only for a while, then it’s time to just enjoy skiing…

I had the chance to pick up a couple of skis that were on the radar last spring, but they got snatched up faster than I could get to them…

I am thinking along the lines of Katana, Rossi S7..Elan 1010…Huge Trouble…

Would Hellbent or Bent Chetler be too much...

post #2 of 17
Not sure why you need 110mm+ to ski Chair 8.  The terrain is pretty flat and short.  What about the Sluff doesn't work there?  My buddies and I ski/have skied Chair 8 on anything from Elan S12 (67mm underfoot) to Atomic Savages (93mm) to Gotamas (105mm), in all kinds of conditions.

I think these were Atomic Snoops, last year off 8:


These were some skinny Elans, not the S12s, same day/area as above:
post #3 of 17
You want fun?  Icelantic Nomad SFT, 146-111-136.  A blast to ski, lots of energy, pop yet still very easy to pilot or go jump on a pair of Obseths, 10/20 rocker lots of fun, easy to ski.


OK, now then, you also need to learn to ski at least big soft CO bumps. See BWPA's signature.......
post #4 of 17
Thread Starter 
You think the nomad soft..?
You did see the part of where i am 240lbs...wouldn't that kinda be too much for the soft version...I would assume Nomad regular...
I have seen his signature...sorry to admit the bumps own me...i do try and ski them when I am in the mood...mostly Blue bumps...just to challenge myself...As the season goes along i try more often...
The bumps i am talking about are on the blacks...like the other day coming back from chair 8...I was not paying attention and ended up coming down Splashdown...i got down, but probably looked like a raw beginner at best...
post #5 of 17
yup a 181 in a SFT. You would love it. Its not like a noodle.
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hmmmmm......
Wonder if Loveland sport shop has the Nomad soft in that size to demo...
Going to have to dedicate a day next month to try out some fatties...
post #7 of 17
I don't think that Loveland carries Icelantic; try Bent Gate.  But maybe consider a lesson or two, which would be a lot cheaper and more enduring than new skis. 
post #8 of 17
AS much as I would like to see you on a new pair of Mad's, th lesson will go a long way to make the inevitable purchase that much sweeter.......   A-basin has Icelantic for demo or if you are on the f-range, stop in the the Icelantic HQ and pick up a pair there. Ask for Annelise who also posts here.
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Originally Posted by raspritz View Post

I don't think that Loveland carries Icelantic; try Bent Gate.  But maybe consider a lesson or two, which would be a lot cheaper and more enduring than new skis. 
post #9 of 17
Thread Starter 
Loveland is a retailer for Icelantic...the sport shop does indeed have demos...
I just don't know if they have the Nomad soft or just the regular...
Either way I will be trying out some later after some fresh snow falls...
I think a lesson would be great...something else to get this season...
Sounds like a good excuse for a ski day during the week...
I am always looking at equipment...not a gear whore...yet...
I am after that 2 ski quiver...no new snow and everything else short of 24+ inches...
Got the no new snow covered...Dynastar Contact LTD from a couple of years ago...Love that ski..have not seen another one on the mountain...
Have the Goliath Sluff...great powerful ski...but looking for something more playful, softer...easier to use in new snow...
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by rspacher View Post

Loveland is a retailer for Icelantic...the sport shop does indeed have demos...
I just don't know if they have the Nomad soft or just the regular...
Either way I will be trying out some later after some fresh snow falls...
I think a lesson would be great...something else to get this season...
Sounds like a good excuse for a ski day during the week...
I am always looking at equipment...not a gear whore...yet...
I am after that 2 ski quiver...no new snow and everything else short of 24+ inches...
Got the no new snow covered...Dynastar Contact LTD from a couple of years ago...Love that ski..have not seen another one on the mountain...
Have the Goliath Sluff...great powerful ski...but looking for something more playful, softer...easier to use in new snow...
 


In that case......check out the Line Sir Francis Bacon...very playful, very soft, very fun
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks...

I will check that one out...
post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post





In that case......check out the Line Sir Francis Bacon...very playful, very soft, very fun

 

+1 I have a review up in the member reviews section. Very fun ski.
post #13 of 17
I have to admit that I'm a bit lost on exactly what you're after.  You want soft, but not too soft since you're a bigger guy and you're looking at the 110mm underfoot stuff - for chair 8?  Let's just forget that chair 8 stuff and let's say that you're doing hikes off chair 9 over to Velvet Hammer, etc.  Then I think you could use a tool that's wider than your Goliaths.  You mentioned the Elan 1010 and that get's great write-ups, but it's not really a deep snow specific ski without any early rise or rocker.  I think the Katana would be a great Loveland ski for any day as long as you have the skills to get them on edge and hold the carve, but I wouldn't characterize it as an easy going playful ski.  Maybe you should look into some of the bigger Fischers - they're softer.  If you're sticking to chair 8 then a Watea 94 would be a good bet since you really don't need the width over there.

BTW - the skis in the second pic Faisasy posted are the older Elan M777 that are 87mm underfoot.
post #14 of 17
I'm 6' 3" 190 and ~level 8.  I have skied the '09 version of your Contact Ltd in a 172 most days this season.  I have enjoyed the 2 days I have on my 191 Scott P4s.  Although I think my 186 Fischer Misfits might be easier to handle in bumps, I think the P4s will be my go to ski for deeper days or when I expect some wind blown or other funky snow.
post #15 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks for that reply...
That's what i am looking for...
The ski to use when its snowing and the snow is either windblown or a combination of many kinds of snow...
I should have not mentioned its to be used off of chair 8 only...but that's where i have found the soft snow this year...
Just want a ski that will be used after we get a few inches...
I am not looking for that ski to handle the 24" dumps...
But with all of the write ups of the fatter skis...the same theme keeps coming up...even in just a few inches they make skiing it a lot more fun and playful...
That seems to describe the new trend of fatter, early rise/rockered skis...
post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 
Hey Finndog...I took your advice and tried out a pair of the K2 Obsethed's...
I found a rental shop that had a pair of K2 Obsethed's...179cm length...105mm under foot...rocker tip and tail...
I was skeptical that these would be that much better than my own fat skis...WRONG.....
I went skiing Monday, in wind blown, crud and ungroomed conditions...and even though they were basically the same length and only 6 mm wider, the K2's were WAY..WAY...easier to ski than my conventional fat skis...
I have a conventional pair of fat skis, Movement Goliath Sluffs...184cm..99mm under foot...and have skied those same runs in the same conditions...and they are work...at least to me...
I went down runs on the mountain with much more ease than ever before, previously I would been in the back seat tail gunning all the way down fighting to keep my balance and not crash...
With the K2's..dramatic difference...i still had to keep focus and ski them, but in a whole different category in the ease of use....
The shop had a pair of Hellbents, but i though it would be better if i started out on the rockered ski experiment with something close to the size of my Sluffs...
I never had a problem with the ski tips sinking in or anything like that...
I look forward to getting more time on the Obsethed's...it can only get better as the confidence grows...
I am now a convert to the new Resort Rocker ski technology...
Even though I had them for only one day, the difference was huge...
I know a lot of the old school would say ...take lessons...but sometimes I just want to have fun, and if the fatter rockered ski allows me to do that...and enjoy my time on the mountain...i am there...
Hmmm...know anyone who wants to buy a pair of Sluffs...
post #17 of 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by rspacher View Post

Hey Finndog...I took your advice and tried out a pair of the K2 Obsethed's...
I found a rental shop that had a pair of K2 Obsethed's...179cm length...105mm under foot...rocker tip and tail...
I was skeptical that these would be that much better than my own fat skis...WRONG.....
I went skiing Monday, in wind blown, crud and ungroomed conditions...and even though they were basically the same length and only 6 mm wider, the K2's were WAY..WAY...easier to ski than my conventional fat skis...
I have a conventional pair of fat skis, Movement Goliath Sluffs...184cm..99mm under foot...and have skied those same runs in the same conditions...and they are work...at least to me...
I went down runs on the mountain with much more ease than ever before, previously I would been in the back seat tail gunning all the way down fighting to keep my balance and not crash...
With the K2's..dramatic difference...i still had to keep focus and ski them, but in a whole different category in the ease of use....
The shop had a pair of Hellbents, but i though it would be better if i started out on the rockered ski experiment with something close to the size of my Sluffs...
I never had a problem with the ski tips sinking in or anything like that...
I look forward to getting more time on the Obsethed's...it can only get better as the confidence grows...
I am now a convert to the new Resort Rocker ski technology...
Even though I had them for only one day, the difference was huge...
I know a lot of the old school would say ...take lessons...but sometimes I just want to have fun, and if the fatter rockered ski allows me to do that...and enjoy my time on the mountain...i am there...
Hmmm...know anyone who wants to buy a pair of Sluffs...
 

I know your feeling, going to skis from a snowboard it was a hard feeling to not be able to ski the terrain, and the snow I was accustomed to. Of the tools exist to make the transition easier, then I say use them.
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