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post #31 of 146
^^^^Spring conditions? what year is that photo? If you have ridden the tram, where is this? jump or slide a small cornice?

Those pictures are taken at the top of Great Scott. 
http://www.snowbird.com/imagelib/trailmaps/trailmap_snowbird.pdf
I am not sure I would call it a true cornice.  The good skiers jump right in and take the steepest stuff at the top, while "sports" like me, tend to slide across the top, missing the top 20 ft of vertical, so if you fall, you don't end up in a big slide down the steep part of the hill.  Next door is Silver Fox which is actually a steeper pitch down the mountain, likely one of the steepest named trail map runs on the mountain.    The trails marked Upper Cirque are a series of very steep and narrow chutes, one called Elevator.  Another very steep area is the Wilbere Bowl or Chute(not sure which is which), but you loose quite a bit of vertical to get there. 
Another doosey is right under the Mineral Basin Express, High Stakes, if you dare.
http://www.snowbird.com/imagelib/trailmaps/trailmap_mineral.pdf
Then there are a couple of dozen double black gates.  Does anyone know how many? what is so cool about snowbird is these steep nooks and crannies are spread over the entire mountain.  gravity is very easy to find at the Bird.

those pictures were taken last week of Feb which I think is the best time to go.  The sun is not yet high enough to cause real havoc, but it is just just starting to creep up high enough to start the freeze thaw cycle, but it'll be another week or two before it ruins things.  At Alta though, last week of Feb, you can see the sun ruining the snow more, because it doesn't as much face north.
post #32 of 146
Bob - good points. I've only been to jackson once and didn't recall the squares vs diamonds.

Serious comments in a Jer thread. What's this place coming to? : )
post #33 of 146
How about a slope rating for ski areas like golf courses? 

It could be the slippery slope rating system.

Then we can all fight about what to use for the standard.    Probably something best saved for summer.

Jer, you are the man.  If going to AK show what a mensch you really are no Chugach or Haines; turn your bad self loose,    ski Fairbanks.
post #34 of 146
I hate double diamonds.  They are hardly ever groomed properly.
post #35 of 146
Ski Run Degrees, only for the East.
http://ski-degrees.synthasite.com/
US - but the small layout and colors make it hard to read.
http://www.skistats.com/
post #36 of 146
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Ski Run Degrees, only for the East.
http://ski-degrees.synthasite.com/

God, I really got to update that thing. New images for practically all the used to be low resolution resorts...

Thanks for the mention though.
post #37 of 146
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At Alta though, last week of Feb, you can see the sun ruining the snow more, because it doesn't as much face north.

 


What are you talking about? Do you even know which way is north? Seriously - get a compass.


Y'know where I've always wanted to ski? Romania!
post #38 of 146
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does skiing black diamonds while seeing double count

     Snowbird used to mark it's "interesting" runs in yellow on the trail map...
post #39 of 146
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What are you talking about? Do you even know which way is north? Seriously - get a compass.


Y'know where I've always wanted to ski? Romania!


doesn't everything off high rustler face north? and most of bear (something?) Wildcat (right)? corkscrew? Lots of North at Alta for sure.
Edited by davluri - 1/26/10 at 7:12pm
post #40 of 146
much of Greeley faces either west or east, that's why they call it east and west greeley, and it all turns to mashed potatoes with half a day of sun in late feb when I am usually out there.  not under the lift of course and high rustler also faces exact north,as does that whole front part of the mtn. also supreme and wildcat are north.  but, when I am at snowbird, it also seems the sun is just creeping over the mountains and most of the mtn just happens to point the right way.  
post #41 of 146
Doesn't north not really get hit by a lot of sun? I thought it was west, south, east, north... so west would usually have the worst cover and soften up first while north will usually never heat up or heat up really late. Then again, the Alps might be different than the Rockies?
post #42 of 146
I ski ONLY double black diamonds just cuz I am an expert agressive skier.

I don't want to heliski in AK and will never go there because there are no double blacks. 
post #43 of 146
its same for the alps north side is the darkside
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Doesn't north not really get hit by a lot of sun? I thought it was west, south, east, north... so west would usually have the worst cover and soften up first while north will usually never heat up or heat up really late. Then again, the Alps might be different than the Rockies?
 
post #44 of 146
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I ski ONLY double black diamonds just cuz I am an expert agressive skier.

I don't want to heliski in AK and will never go there because there are no double blacks. 

post #45 of 146
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I hate double diamonds.  They are hardly ever groomed properly.

Now see, that is my issue.

That and the fact that I am no expert.
post #46 of 146
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post

much of Greeley faces either west or east, that's why they call it east and west greeley,

There is no "West Greely". Greely, East Greely and Yellow Trail all face northeast. West Rustler faces west, but that has nothing to do with Greely. The best aspects for snow preservation are north and east facing, followed by west, then south. There is nothing at Alta that faces south. All of Mineral Basin (y'know - at Snowbird) faces south, but that's not Alta. Actually Snowbird is the only resort in the Big/Little Cottonwoods that has extensive south-facing terrain. Maybe you should take a day off from ripping Bass Highway next time you're out there and get around a little more. Also - sorry that you seem to hit unseasonably warm weather everytime you're there.
post #47 of 146
Somebody should make skis named "Double Blacks" so I could buy them and say I ski double blacks.
Think about it...you could also make skis named "Corbet's", "Kitzbühel", "The Olympics", etc...man, I'm going to be rich.
post #48 of 146

Here’s one Betsy likes [win a mid-morning warm-up coffee by providing the mountain resort name ]


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do i have to pick the coffee up?
 



SnowbirdDevotee upon proof of identity is entitled to one free cup of coffee* paid for in person by dondenver at any CO Summit or Eagle county ski resorts.  This is a non-transferable award valid thru 2011 ski season.  Excludes any sugar, dairy or other additives.  Cup sleeve and lid included if available.


Edited for rule modification:

*Drip brewed coffee only.  None of that half skinny fufu shit.


Edited by DonDenver - 1/27/10 at 9:29am
post #51 of 146
Maybe what would be nice is for resorts to start putting an "average pitch" and "maximum pitch" on trail signs and over time, skiers might learn what pitch they were used to and be able to translate that experience from one resort to another. 
post #52 of 146
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Maybe what would be nice is for resorts to start putting an "average pitch" and "maximum pitch" on trail signs and over time, skiers might learn what pitch they were used to and be able to translate that experience from one resort to another. 

+1

But then again, resorts can have the average pitch be from the top of the fall line to the bottom of the last drop while other resorts would include the flat top and long run out which would affect the stats. And with the maximum pitch, they could measure the backend of a mogul.  You never know what resorts can do to make there stats look steeper or flatter...
post #53 of 146
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

Maybe what would be nice is for resorts to start putting an "average pitch" and "maximum pitch" on trail signs and over time, skiers might learn what pitch they were used to and be able to translate that experience from one resort to another. 

As much as I wholehearted agree, you know it's never gonna happen.  There are so many molehills with trumped-up double blacks that are would only be single blacks (if even that) at well-known benchmark resorts.  The double-black designation has a "halo" effect (a la the car industry) that generates interest and traffic, even with people who would have no business on a double-black anyways.  It's both a cachet and aspirational thing.

Providing actual numbers would allow direct comparisons, which all resorts (save the steepest) would protest against.
post #54 of 146
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I can't say that I've actually looked at a trail sign (let alone if it was rated black, double diamond, SUPER EXTREME!! or suicidal) in years.

Only gapers who want to tell everybody back at the office that they side-slipped down "The Double-Diamond" pay any attention to stuff like that. Hence this thread.
post #55 of 146
 Alegend in your own mind...

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I can't say that I've actually looked at a trail sign (let alone if it was rated black, double diamond, SUPER EXTREME!! or suicidal) in years.

Only gapers who want to tell everybody back at the office that they side-slipped down "The Double-Diamond" pay any attention to stuff like that. Hence this thread.
post #56 of 146
Thread Starter 
Polar - have you posted anything yet without mentioning me or quoting me? I think we both know who's mind I'm a legend in.
post #57 of 146
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Polar - have you posted anything yet without mentioning me or quoting me? I think we both know who's mind I'm a legend in.
 I just cant stand a blowhard...skiing world is full of em
post #58 of 146
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 I just cant stand a blowhard...skiing world is full of em

 

..or at least the internet skiing world, huh polar?
post #59 of 146
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..or at least the internet skiing world, huh polar?
 The polls dont lie JER, the polls dont lie..
post #60 of 146
I went to the top of the chutes at steamboat, looked down em, saw the trees, and said screw it im not that good, now i am that good. But snowy range doesnt have any double blacks, just skied out crap and ice
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