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How do you buckle your boots?

post #1 of 8
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Ski boots tend to hurt the top right of my arch on my left foot and visa versa on my right foot..  I've minimized it by padding various places, and by not tightening the two buckles on my arch, just on my cuff.

I still find that if I really crank down on the lower cuff buckle, it puts some pressure on the top of my arch.

I've found that if I wrap the boot shell a little differently than normal, it completely removes the problem, allowing me to thighten the cuff as much as I want without affecting my arch.

For example, on my left boot in the picture below, I put the left cuff flap under the right arch flap.  The right cuff flap with the buckles is on top, with the right arch flap (which makes a little transition up to the cuff) sandwiched between the two cuff flaps.  This only works if the cuff flap is large enough to slide between the right side of the boot and the shell (doesn't work on lower end recreational boots). 

This comes from my son, who said doing it this way makes his 130 flex race boots a lot more comfortable. 

So are we crazy, or have other people tried it?

post #2 of 8
I buckle my lower buckles with very light pressure.  The boots are still tight fitting.  I've had to cut out quite a bit of liner material in order for the prominent bone on the top of my foot to fit.  I can tighten the cuff as much as I want, and my arch is fine.  I had to bring my boots (which have custom footbeds bthw) back about 1/2 a dozen times to dial in the fit.  Boots should fit so that you can use the buckles the way they were designed, imho.

I can't quite tell from your photo what is going on with those buckles, but that could be the effect of my apés ski Mondite bière,
post #3 of 8
DISCLAIMER.   I am not an exper bootfitter.  Some of them will probably answer here after skiing today.   I'm home watching football.

I also have very high arches.  My solution get boot that fit right and you don't have to cinch the buckles down.  I can ski with both front buckles hardly latched, the ankle buckle firmly attached and the top/calf bucket anyway I want.  Answer for me was always had boots that were too big  27 in my case, went to 26 and solved the problem (also solved packing out) problem.

Just bought new boots and found that Lange makes a true half size boot.  A true 26 being 305 size and their 26.5 is a 210 which is a true half size and not just a different liner.  I know I am not a boot expert but to me it sounds that if you have to monkey around with your boot that much that they're the wrong size, wrong type of boot for you foot etc.  Of course I can't see if you have weird feet or whatever.

Probably shouldn't have even put this down, but oh well.   There are some great bootfitter guys here and I am sure they'll give you some answers.
post #4 of 8
Once you have heard that bootfitters are magicians from enought people you trust you will probably endorse them like I do.  They can analyze the situation and give good remedy.  It is worth the consult. I have Superfeet cork custom insoles and could never go back to the pain I remember without them.
post #5 of 8
Sounds like you might be in the wrong boots.  When I had mine fitted, the fitter discussed this (not sure why - I must have asked something about it).  What I remember is him stating that one of the places to fit/measure is the (I think) distance from the heel to the top of the foot (or something like that) and there is some relationship to that and other measurements.  I'm going by memory and it wasn't a concern for me so I didn't pay too much attention.  Different boots have different sized pockets for that part of your foot.

If I understand what you are doing correctly, I don't think it will hurt anything.  You are just raising the the part that is applying the pressure to the top of your foot, by the width of the flap from the other side (which would normally be on top).  If it works, keep doing it but next time you get boots, talk to the fitter about this.

Does it hurt less when you flex all the way forward.  Maybe the issue is what is under your heel?

As far as how I tighten them, start at the top and work my way down.  No buckle takes more than two fingers of pressure to close (without straining).  After a few runs and the boots/liners are warm, I usually have to tighten them up a bit. 

post #6 of 8
Not sure if you've heard it already, but when you put the boot on, before buckling, do you kick the ground with the back of your foot, to get the foot seated far back into the cuff? Then try buckling the lower cuff buckle first, to keep it back there. That may help seat the instep of your foot further back, where the volume is higher.
I would also assume you've sought the help of a bootfitter who may have shaved down the thickness of your footbed; maybe stretching out the shell would be an option for you as well.
post #7 of 8

I've been told by more than once that the proper way to to buckle boots is as follows:

Top, toe, then flex the boot, then the buckle over your instep, flex again, and finally the one over your ankle. The flexing ensures that your heel is seated properly. It's always worked for me, much better than banging the back of the boot.

post #8 of 8
Sounds like the boots are not a good shape for your foot.  Have you had material from the boot removed to accomodate for the shape of your foot?   Are you wearing thin socks?  A slight heel lift will reduce the volume your ankle area takes up, put your hand around your ankle and test it out to see what I mean.   You may need to relocate that buckle.   Im not a boot fitter but these might be some of the things to consider.

The way I tighten my boots is to just get them on, buckle any which way...ski a little bit, warm up, then clamp them down once my feet are fully seated and the liner has compressed.  Socks are race-thin.   But, I did have my boots, which are 160, professionally fitted by a certified master boot fitter.  
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