or Connect
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › Ski Training and Pro Forums › Ski Instruction & Coaching › Polar opposites: competition v. cooperation
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Polar opposites: competition v. cooperation

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
I am rerouting the conversation on the pros and cons of competition and cooperation to this thread.

The tension between cooperation (teamwork) and competition (individual glory) often gets portrayed as being a choice between the two.

We teach groups and individuals. We manage groups and individuals. In my examples I use players and teams generically.

For example, a roster of great individual performers will not necessarily get you a great team. What is the job of the coach in this situation?

On the other hand, each player has to be competitive to make the starting line-up. What does the aspiring second-stringer need from the coach?
post #2 of 7
Parameters. Some realistic starting point, with an agenda not written in stone but an agenda none the less. Illustrations/examples of how doing this now will lay the foundation for doing that later.
Your team analogy - sum of all parts, etc. - is an excellent example and applicable to the notion of the weakest link in a chain, which at the same time addresses the individual's own components; where they are weak and need work, and where they are strong enough to use as a platform to the next station.
post #3 of 7
Coach defines the task and the goal to the team, then identifies the strengths of each team member, and together they design how the team will achieve the goals. Weak points of each are identified as part of this process (as opposed to being imposed by the coach), and so team members come to own them, and will try to improve.
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Does a great team coach have different qualities than a great private coach? What are they?

Does a great team player have different qualities than a great individual player? What are they?
post #5 of 7
A great team player can often be a great individual player as well, but it doesn't always work both ways. Thinking of cricket (carefully picking a sport only 2% of you know anything about) I would say Brian Lara is not a great team player. He is too keen to get a big score himself rather than for the team to do well. Cricket is a sport where quite often the individual has to sacrifice his long-term success for the benefit of the team.
post #6 of 7
agree on prima donnas like Lara. But on the obverse, look at Imran Khan, who frequently had to pull something huge out of the hat to salvage the game after the team had stuffed it up, yet I'd say he was definitely a team player....and a great leader.

(I'm one of the 2%!).
post #7 of 7
Certainly, there are a few great players around who are great team players too. But there are certainly great team players who aren't necessarily great individuals:

Jonty Rhodes - OK, world class fielder and so-so batsman but huge morale-booster for the team.

Mike Brierley (sp?) - the archetypal team player who was such a superb captain but just wasn't a good enough batsman to be picked for his individual ability.

A good team player is prepared to go and whack a few runs when his team want to declare, even if it means getting out and ruining his average.

"prima donna" is a good word for those individuals who are so good they get on the team anyway, but aren't team players. Wanchope (Costa Rica/Manchester City) is a typical prima donna footballer. Michael Schumacher the ultimate F1 driver in this category.

Not sure how much this all applies to skiing, where I'm not aware of any genuine team events - only of a group of individuals competing for the same country.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Instruction & Coaching
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › Ski Training and Pro Forums › Ski Instruction & Coaching › Polar opposites: competition v. cooperation