I can't help but noticed he had only 2 post count. So I pull up his other post. It's clear from that buddy39914 is just a kid:
I guess we could cut him some slack?
In practical terms, is there a limit on what a guide can be prepared for? Has any ski guide ever considered a scenario of how they would handle a situation where a client's helmet gets forecefully wedged underwater between two rocks? Can any guide prevent and be prepared for every possible scenario, especially the bizarre ones? This seems like a rather bizarre incident and without knowing the details it seems a bit hasty to judge the guide in this case. We don't know how forecefully her head was wedged between the rocks or what position she was in and how this could compromise the ability of someone to free her in time etc...
The reality is, going out to explore the wilderness, whether skiing, hiking, climbing, or rafting, has it's hidden and unexpected dangers, not just visibile ones. The unexpected can happen and you can get hurt, killed, or maimed, even with a guide. Guides are there to do their best to assist you and eleviate the trouble you can get into but I don't think any guide can change the fact that stuff happens now and then. If guides could keep you completely safe then you wouldn't have to sign the release form stating that unexpected dangers are a part of the wilderness and you can get hurt -- badly.
I think there is a tendency to over-analyze accidents and fatalities. I am sure the guide feels terrible and this will no doubt weigh heavily on his mind for the rest of his life. Tyring to second-guess the actions of the guide or dissect the incident on a message board won't bring the woman back or prevent future accidents, however. This may sound incredibly cold or callous, but people are going to die in this sport. That is no relief to the relatives or friends of those killed or injured, but that is just the reality of the sport. We are going to continue to read stories about skiers getting killed or injured, sometimes in bizarre ways, because when people go out and do the things that skiers do, especially those who venture into the wilderness, the risk is always going to be there and the law of averages is destined to seal the fate of a number of skiers every year. We can try to learn from these incidents, but the stories will continue as long as people continue to ski. Helmet debates and second-guessing actions or intent won't change this reality.
Very sad story..
Drowning is a TERRIBLE feeling as you know it's happening.. I almost drowned body surfing when I was 16 in a big winter swell off Newport Beach, TERRIBLE feeling, I'm lucky to be alive today, wouldn't be if it weren't for a lifeguard driving by at the time... Anyway, condolences to her family & friends.
BTW, Buddyboy, I'm 44, not quite 50, but have gone Heli several times including AK w/CPG and skied with skiers who were older that I and I Guarantee you they would kick your Butt up and down the hill ALL Day... 2 Posts and your already a trainwreck...