|Originally posted by FastMan:
You seem steadfast in your refusal to consider ideas that you view as contradictory to your present singular technical concepts. Even when presented with images of one of the best skiers in the world displaying all the elements of the technique I present, you still refuse to acknowledge them. Images I did not hand pick. Images some of which you offered to me. Yet with these images right in front of you you still adamantly deny their existence, because to accept them would be to disrupt what is to you is a simple and orderly world.
I think it's unfair to say I refuse to consider ideas that you have presented. I simply disagree with a few of your points. I would ask that you skip the "simple and orderly world" rhetoric. I also haven't denied the existence of any images right in front of me. You see a single picture and state it "diplays all the elements of the technique I present". I mentioned the montages of Pequegnot and Contreras and you cited "cross blocking". I looked at the single picture of Miller, mention it might be the angle of the camera, agree there is some counter. You see a subsequent picture, a hail eureeka, and use it as a vehicle to slam my "singular technical concepts" and cite it as a total validation of "all the elements."
Again, I agree with the fact that the old inside leg can be extended to create pressure. My primary point of disagreement is with, "This CM and pelvis countering movement sequence continues until the edge height necessary to produce the desired turn shape has been achieved, at which point the sequence terminates, and then at the appropriate time reverses".
I will try to very succinctly make my argument. Imagine any skier "frozen" in neutral. We captured the moment in our minds eye. No tip lead, square hips and shoulders, equal flexion/extension of ankles, knees, and hips. Both skis flat on the snow. Fore-aft balance right in the sweet spot. For a split second, our imaginary skier is frozen in time.
For the sake of this exercise we can all walk 360 degrees around our imaginary specimen and regardless of the pitch he/she is stacked/aligned at right angle to the slope. From any angle stacked up in neutral. We circle our skier and at every point on the compass the student is perpendicular to the slope. Yes there is flexion in the hips, knees and ankles, however, by any measurement this fictional character is well aligned. We have captured the true moment of neutral/transition.
Now, it doesnot matter which direction we're headed. How will our skier carve the next turn?
If my understanding of your analyis is correct it will involve a lateral/pendulum motion of the hips along with counter until "necessary edge height" is achieved. This is the true basis of my disagreement.
It is my contention the movement will begin in the subtalar and work it's way up, not be driven down or pulled by a pendulum action of the pelvis, the pelvis moving fore or aft, or lateral movement. In short the foot will tip, then the lower leg and then the upper leg.
Consider one question. From neutral, what's the quickest way to engage a new set of edges? With the feet or moving the hips?
I hope we will continue this wonderful debate and hope someday you'll leave the warm confines of Florida, and as Arc said, we'll explore this on snow. I'd love to meet you and watch you make a few turns. I'm sure I could learn a great deal.[ May 18, 2003, 05:34 PM: Message edited by: Rusty Guy ]