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Hi I need help,    Planning a holiday for end of year some time and cant decide it ski Japan or Austria St Anton..Has anyone been to both or one any feed back would be greatly appreciated.   We are in Australia and Japan is cheaper but is that better...  Thank you in advance for any help.
post #2 of 12
 Hi, 

Have been to both.

St Anton in Austria is a great place to ski and snowboard. There's a really nice balance at this resort between some great skiing and wonderful Apres ski. The mountains are demanding if you want them to be up to the most extreme you can get it, coupled with some nice wide open pistes for ski touring. 

Japan. Not as tough, but then again the snow is much much better, you get some really big powder days. It has a good pedigree, with resorts like Hakuba hosting the 98 Winter Olympics. I know that at the moment they've had nearly three weeks of consecutive snow this year. Average is 11 meters annually, so big. Japan is more challenging culturally and from a language point of view, but really rewarding once you get into it. 

Cheers
Pinky
Edited by Pinky - 1/20/10 at 3:44am
post #3 of 12
  Hi, 

Have been to both. 

St Anton in Austria is a great place to ski and snowboard. There's a really nice balance at this resort between some great skiing and wonderful Apres ski. The mountains are demanding if you want them to be up to the most extreme you can get it, coupled with some nice wide open pistes for ski touring. 

Japan, well got say I'm a little bias here. Not as tough, but then again the snow is much much better. Big powder days. I know that at the moment they've had nearly three weeks of consecutive snow this year. Average is 11 meters annually, so big. How do I know, when living the dream a bit, part own a hotel there. If you want you can check out the hotel website, where we've a quick video of the place, the snow and the Apres. Japan is more challenging culturally and from a language point of view, but really rewarding once you get into it.  
The hotel is base in Hakuba, about 4 hrs from the international airport, it was the host of the 98 Olympics, so enough said on its pedegree.



Hope that helps. Regardless of where you go both are top places to go on holiday. 

Cheers
Andrew
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I've been to Hakuba and Niseko, but never been skiing in Europe.  I can agree with Pinky on the fact that Japan is a complete cultural experience, which is a lovely extra to go with the skiing.  Once you get out of Tokyo (or the larger cities) there's not a lot of English going on, although there's usually enough to get by.  The thing is that in Europe you can at least read the signs, but in Japan ýou can't decipher anything - you're not equipped to even look at the road signs etc.  If you can settle into it and enjoy the change of culture it's a hoot, and the snow is usually sensational.  Not steep runs, and normally not especially long runs, but the snow quality is top class and soaking away the soreness after a long day skiing in an onsen is a must.  The Hakuba valley has eleven resorts (off the top of my head) within a 15-20 min drive, and the largest of them are within sight and only five minutes away.  600 ski resorts (or so) in Japan - there must be something for everybody in that lot.  Having said that, there's something about the Alps that means they're on my list as well.  One day.
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Why not Utah?
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If you like powder--Japan! Esp. since it's cheaper for you. Do a search for Japan under user name Samaurai. He's over there and is always skiing powder - alone. Most Japanese skiers prefer the groomed so it lasts a long time.
Never been myself though.
No question Europe is special, but Japan more so in a different way. At least from an eastern hemisphere perspective.
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Why not Utah?
 

Why not?

It's a very, very, very long flight from Australia to Utah...
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It's a very, very, very long flight from Australia to Utah...

Isn't it a very, very, very long flight from Australia to Austria? 
BTW... Where to go summer skiing from Australia? Japan, Himalayas?
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I've skiied, in total, in Austria for 38 days and Japan for 9. But haven't been to St Anton.

In my view Japan (Niseko in particular) reminds me very much of places I've been in the States; not many hills as such - but each one littered with different runs from the same lifts, backcountry isn't controlled but is made easy by gated access which prevents you from getting lost. Terrain features from gates dictate that you will end up back at a lift at some point. Food is much better than I expected and the people are the friendly.

Austria is typical Euro skiing; larger lift/run areas. No assistance with any backcountry, so you need to be sure of your routes. More backcountry to do, bigger verts, more steeps but not as snowsure as Japan where quality snow is more or less nailed on. Locals just as friendly as Japan and again the food/servise/culture is great.

Really depends on your skiing priorities I'd say.

 

 

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Originally Posted by irafar View Post

Isn't it a very, very, very long flight from Australia to Austria? 
BTW... Where to go summer skiing from Australia? Japan, Himalayas?
 

A long flight indeed but not quite as long as to Utah.

For Australians, "summer skiing" means just about anywhere else in the world (as we know it)!
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