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The road to certification

post #1 of 8
Thread Starter 
This is a post I should have thought about, instead of nearly hijacking Robin congratulations thread (see whatta guy! ) about Rusty level III examination,
please accept my apologies, along with, once again, my congratulatios, Rusty.
Basically, after reading many such threads, about people successfully passing their nth level exam, I was courious
about the road which was leading someone there.
I am not talking about the motivations, merely about the process
and its bureaucracy...which, sometimes is more de-motivating than
I already narrated my 1991-92 experience, when I tried and failed) to access the certification class here in Italy.
Partially to answer L7 comment in Rusty's thread, I will
describe it again.
-Every candidate needs a medical certificate attesting
he/she can compete in the particular discipline (i.e. anyone wishing to become a ski instructor will need to be declared
medically fit to compete in ski racing events)
-Then the candidates will need to present themself in front of
the examiners commission, the test is as follows:
--Two days skiing, first day free skiing executing intermediate-high level manoeuvres (Christies, wedeln, carving and so on) which are first demonstrated by one examiner.
--Second day it's race day, the examiners will set a GS course,
one of them will ski it, be clocked and then the candidates will
ski it, everyone must stay within (or be quicker) a certain time from the pacesetter's time. When I tested, no time was taken, only the technique was checked.
-If you have passed this, then the real certification program begins, of course racers of national and international level (Tomba, Compagnoni and the likes) are admitted by default to the program
I'm not sure, since I never arrived this far, but it should be a three modules x10 (or 20) days each. Here they will not only teach the candidates how to ski (better) but most importantly, how to teach
-Final examination. Congratulations. Upon passing it you'll be a jobless ski instructor.
Now you have to look for a ski schooll that is willing to employ you.

So, L7, it's not that in Italy they are concerned with lawsuits (indeed the powers that be are) but as far as racers,
one possible answer is that the certificate is
necessary to avoid that people with hidden, congenital illnesses (heart diseases and the likes) be allowed to race/compete (and probably die in the process) as it happened a couple of times in the past. This way, resources are not invested into someone who will later have to drop out of the activity because of his own physical conditions
Don't ask me why this is needed for would be instructors, I see two possiblilities:
Since in Italy, racing is still considered the zenith of every sporting activity, ski instructors are equated to racers,even if they never participated in any racing event, racing events reserved to instructors are held every year, like the national championships for ski instructors.
-Two (more cynical)
The medical certificate it's the first hurdle of the certification road which is designed to sprout as many candidates as possible at each "step".

Or, maybe, Italy, for once is in front of everyone else, and I'm just being paranoid (like 97 % of my fellow countrymen) [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img] Oh, I forgot, there were talks of introducing an age limit to enter the program, but I'm not sure if it has been put into effect.
Humor me please, this is my third week witout skiing...
post #2 of 8
Thread Starter 
My thanks to Ant (sorry guys, ladies first [img]smile.gif[/img] ), Milesb and L7
for answering the question.

[ March 11, 2003, 08:18 AM: Message edited by: Matteo ]
post #3 of 8
Racing is a very big part of skiing in europe. Australian skiing was founded by euros, so it's pretty important here, too. Part of Oz certification is a race.
And I guess you've all heard of the notorious Kappa test in France: for foreigners to get their licence to teach there, they have to do a course (was slalom, now I think they have GS too) within a certain range of the local race pro's time.
(and caught without the licence, you go to jail!).
post #4 of 8
Thread Starter 
Originally posted by ant:
(and caught without the licence, you go to jail!).
In Italy too. They charge you with fraud.

[ March 12, 2003, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Matteo ]
post #5 of 8

It is great to hear about the process in other countries. Thanks for the information. It sounds as though the process is much longer in Italy, although, sans the race program, it may not be as dissimilar as we think.

In essence, at every PSIA level I attended a two day "clinic" approximately thirty days prior to attending an examination. The level I exam is one day, the II and III are two day exams. Hence, I spent a total of nine days in the process over a period of three years with a PSIA clinician and/or examiner.

It is important to consider what transpired during the interim. I was lucky enough to work for a PSIA examiner for two years and train/clinic weekly with this individual. In addition I met Bob Barnes who is also an examiner, sought his assistance, and trained with Bob for over the course of the past two years.

At almost every resort there are "staff trainers" who may have PSIA "trainer accred" or who have al least been earmarked as having a "good eye" for movement analysis.

In my case, I am a better teacher than I was last year and certainly much better than I was two years ago. Time has enabled me to digest a myriad of information. It is my hope that this process will continue and that my learning will never cease.

I'm flattered by strangers congratulating me and it makes the accomplishment even sweeter. I have to say every cert level in the process felt like a wonderful accomplishment. I was just as happy to years ago to pin my first bronze pin on my jacket.
post #6 of 8
Ummmm - Ant isn't the racing only for level 3's????
post #7 of 8
I believe there is a racing component at all Australian cert levels...but I would LOVE to be wrong! (racing sucks).
post #8 of 8
hmmm -thought when we were discussing the criteria for assessing the racing - how close to examiners times - that the subject of an 'allowance for age' was mentioned & my not quite so young friend (APSI Level 1) mentioned that that was good because if he kept going he might need it.... too much beer ... not sure ... better ask CM
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