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2 footed racers

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As a follow up to my how did he ever & otts skiing on air post
I spent some time watching the world championships & noticed you can tell a racers age by how they ski. The older racers are still going hard from inside edge to inside edge while the younger guys who have known new ski technology their entire careers are truly 2 footed at all times. it was glaring to me once I noticed it. Anyone else noticed this?

I mentioned this to an x-racer friend who
related an old ski coaches instruction.
"when do you weight your inside ski? when it is all you have left"
has technique really changed that much? this guy is in his early 30s
post #2 of 4
I would agree with BobB about techniques not really changing, just the tools.
This proves out whenever I hop back on my Prolink equipes. I can still turn them and carve them, It just takes a little more effort to get the ski to bend. At slower speeds I have to put all the weight on one ski but when I'm going fast, I can almost get them to bend with 2 feet. With my new XScreams I can definatly ski 2 footed most of the time.
My friend who was very frustrated with her skiing because every time someone told her to "do this" (by the way most of the tips she got were valid) she was very frustrated that she did not get the same result as many of her friends. The difference longer stiffer skis so the turns although carved were wider sweeping turns. She tried some new skis this past month and all of a sudden her turns were just like some of the rest of us. Good movement patterns as a result of good technique and body mechanics and now tight carved turns thanks to new technology.
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There is a certain amount of adapting to the equipment but for the most part technique has not changed drastically. I ski with a weight distribution of about 70/30, but that varies by terrain, type of ski, snow conditions, speed, etc. I'm not sure that there is a rule of thumb per se, except that inside ski steering is less important now that we do inside ski edging/carving.

The amount of countering is also changing, in the sense that you don't sepatate at the waist as much with shaped skis. Lead changes are getting smaller as the counter is reduced.

The thing to keep in mind is that you will need to adapt your technique slightly from ski to ski to get the most performance out of the boards. Similar idea to how your car drives on your winter tires vs. your summer ones. Same techniques, little adjustments.
post #4 of 4
I've been playing a lot with weight distribution between skis over the last few years - ever since we started seeing more of it on the World Cup.

I think that people, professional and recreational are prone to see the best doing something new . . . and make a religion out of it!

Certainly we are seeing *more* equal weighting on *more* turns than we ever used to - but still not equal weighting on all turns by a long shot. Racers continue to do what the've always done - they do whatever they *have* to do in each turn to stay in the line they need to stay in.

When you equally weight your skis - you only bend each ski 1/2 as much, resulting in a increase of carve radius. When you put all your weight on one ski, you bend the ski more and have a diminished carve radius. If you are a G-Force Junkie like myself, that means either moving to softer/shorter skis (I've already gone from 200-215's down to 167-183's in the last 6 years!) so that I can double weight the skis and still get effective bending for the radius of turn I desire, or continuing to primarily weight the outside ski.

However, long time skiers have always moved weight onto their inside ski as is needed in any turn. When I loose my outside ski (skidding, deflection . . . etc) - I shift to the outside edge of the inside ski so quickly and unconciously that my turn radius is unaffected. World Cup level skiers of course can do the same move on solid ice going 70mph!

In the powder - and in varying consistancys inbetween hardpack and fluff, we have learned to unconciously change the weight distribution according to the needs of the moment.

What I see happening in some ski schools now unfortuately, is that they are grabbing onto the "double weighting" idea and trying to make it *The New Way To Ski* - rather than simply adding it to their bag of tricks!<FONT size="1">

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