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Binding back angle

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I was wondering about the binding back adjustment, different angle for riding style? Surface?


post #2 of 9
Are you talking about the highback lean?
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
Yes, on the back of the binding (ride) there is a lever with an adjustment plate....adjust the forward angle of the back....pretty bad I am so ignorant of my equipment, but my day job involves nothing but tweaking machinery, I have been able to get away with riding powder out in CO for the last 4 years without much attention to my equipment. Trying NASTAR now so it may make a difference.

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The purpose of the highback is to assist heelside turns. The greater the forward lean of the highback, the sooner any movement from toe to heel will initiate a change to a heel side edge. For many freeriders, sooner is better. But if you adjust to too much forward lean, your legs will get tired from being in a bent position all the time. Lots of park riders want to minimize the highback angle because you generally want a flat board in a number of places (e.g. rails) and highback can create a heelside bias to make this difficult.

A lot of riders never adjust their highbacks and are happy the way they are. Someone invented this contraption and made it adjustable for a reason. You're good at tweaking. So go ahead and tweak it and see if it works better for you.
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Hello after an incredibly long..hiatus I'M BACK. Missed this forum a ton!! Kudos to you Rusty for keeping it alive and well!! At any rate I have an interesting topic to throw out there hi-back related. In a recent debate - conversation the dialogue had come up in regards to use of highbacks. At any rate I have taken mine off and have been doing a riding experiement for the last couple of weeks. Anyone else have any feed back or thoughts  / experimentation with??

Jonah D.
post #6 of 9
Hey Jonah - Whitetail says hi! You would not believe our park this year.

When we had the Rossi accelerator boards in our rental fleet, their demo team came up to clinic us on the Rossi "program" for teaching beginners on their board. Since I had already had my own boots with the Rossi(Osin) step in system, I used my own boots in a rental board when I took the clinic. The only "problem" was that my personal set up had a highback on the binding, but the rental set up had the highback built into the boot. So using my boots on a rental board meant I had no highback. During the clinic, the guys did not say anything about it. But after the clinic when we went to take a free run from the top, they said "No! You can't do that!". I gave it a try anyway and stayed with them turn for turn as they bombed the run. At the end they just said "Whoa!" I didn't miss the highback. It can be done away with.
post #7 of 9
Depends on the board and the riding you're doing (and boots) in terms of how important the highback itself, and the forward lean used, is.  With a LTR and a stiff boot someone could do well without, with a speed and terrain limit.  The highbacks are there for a reason though.  (As are the differences in highback flex, individual frankenbinder choice in highback, etc.)

For the o.p., if you're doing NASTAR you have a few things to play with depending on how serious you are, what your boots are, etc.  In general, with softboots mildly forward stance angles may have you happier for this than riding duck, if you have time to get used to them (not a given).  With forward angles playing with rotating the highback to keep it more parallel to the board's edge while the binding faces a bit forward, in addition to adjusting forward lean, may help.  Look at what most people riding the way you want to ride are running adjustment wise (there will be a range) and as Rusty suggested tweak away. 

Hope football season was good this year in NYS, Jonah. 
post #8 of 9
Well, after roughly a month of riding with no-high backs...

I have yet to really find any down falls in the the set up here gang. Or maybe it's just that my muscle memory (ankle / knee  / hip flexsion ) does not really affect my riding???? Quite honestly even taking a few run in the pipe I was at first skeptical...I'm not saying this is something that I'm going to stick with BUT none the less riding with out high back certainly does make you wonder. On another note one of the major differences I can tell you is apparent...w/o high back on heel side turns I generally find the hip moving more into the center of my turns. Where as having A high back this effort would be acomplished buy closing the ankle & any variation of pressure on the high back depending on T.I.D. (timing, intensity, duration).

Jonah D.
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Very interesting subject matter.  On the one hand I find that heel side turns have such a strong locked in feel to them when I pressure the high backs. On the other hand  the toe side does not deliver quite the same quickness. since the knees and ankles hinge forward I don't need or want that same positive locked in feel toe side.

 Ive ridden low backs and  zero forward lean and not found it any great handicap however it seems like in heavy snow or slush I would definitely miss my high back. Most newer boots are much stiffer

than the boots we used to ride. I have also noticed some with forward lean built into the boot as well. These boots would seem to supplant the high backs.

 Let us know if you get to use your no-backs in heavy snow Jonah D.

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