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post #1 of 19
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There are plenty of mountains in the northeast.  Which ones are moving up a notch this year? Has anyone skied any of the northeast mountains thus far this season?  What are the improvements and why is it better?  new parks? new terrain? more snowmaking? new lifts?




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post #2 of 19
ok, I'll bite, days so far in northeast include the following:

Wachusett: Wind Farm, two new windmills adjacent to ski area, new snowmaking.  I was happily surprised at the quality of skiing this past weekend.  Yes, there are crowds but can't beat the drive from Boston and nice to know expansion is GREEN (as in environmentally friendly).

Wildcat: Can't beat the views of Tuckerman's.  Love their Sunday first half of day lift ticket for those checking out early.

Bretton Woods:  Other side of Mt. Washington from Wildcat but again great views, great variety of terrain.  Latest trails maps indicate development of whole new mountain, Mt. Stickney.

Ragged: Tends to not be as crowded, some great runs.  Not sure if anything is new this year.

See you on the slopes!! 
post #3 of 19
Magic mountain could easily be the most improved mountain in the NE over last year.  Between their new snowmaking and their emphasis on making it more beginner friendly has netted a huge jump up in snow coverage.  Same steeps and challenging terrain, just now with better access to those who require/like groomers.  Also there's a few new features for the more adventurous among us as well.  PM me before you head out and I'd be happy to show you around.   

I really can't say enough about how much better the snow is this year than last year.  Just ask Live4ski, who just came up last weekend and told me afterwards that Magic had better coverage than Sugarbush!

 
post #4 of 19
Gonna be a long time on that one...
According to the resort they aren't going to expand to Stickney until the local population expands to support more skiing, and given the current job prospectus in that area not likely to happen anytime soon. 

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Latest trails maps indicate development of whole new mountain, Mt. Stickney.
 
post #5 of 19
 If you want to just say on paper I'd go with the 86 acres of back country added to Cannon with Mitersill now part of the resort, although its always been a hike away now it is officially part of the mountain so I'd count that as a major improvement.
Loon Mountain has and is continuing to do some major expansion on their South Peak, 2 new trails this year and more to come next year including their only double black Rip Saw (unfortunately was grass when I was there over Christmas) but I hear good things about the trails they're cutting.
post #6 of 19

Regarding Loon South Peak expansion, very nice, heard about that.  My only trip there last year I stayed exclusively on South Peak as I did not want to deal with larger crowds and intersecting runs. Granted not much there last year but enough to keep me busy on blues and blacks. Expansion of South Peak is great news.

Regarding Bretton Woods expansion, yup, it may be a long time coming but worth mentioning none the less.

See you on the slopes.

post #7 of 19
Haven't been this season, but Saddleback in Maine cut a huge new glade - Casablanca - for this season. 
post #8 of 19
Bristol added a new HSQ this year in preparation for further expansion to the north.We should see new trails by next year.
post #9 of 19
Berkshire East has added a new triple going to the summit, it's due to open in the next few days.

In addition the Ski Patrol have cleared out more glades and expanded some of the existing glades.

They have finally received approval for a Wind Turbine to power the entire resort, but it won't go up until the Spring.

Aside from their lack of a terrain park the mountain is skiing big, and the number of glades makes it very good mountain for advanced skiers.  
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

Berkshire East ...
Aside from their lack of a terrain park ...

And that's a bad thing?

There was a day when the mountain was the terrain park. 

Then came big wide rectangular trails with too much snow making, too much grooming, and too high a lift capacity.

Glad to see the Beast with the glades and such is working on putting in a more natural type of "terrain park".

-l2t
post #11 of 19
 terrain parks keep the real risk takers off the main trails though! 
post #12 of 19
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Bristol added a new HSQ this year in preparation for further expansion to the north.We should see new trails by next year.

No sh1t, is this confirmed? I kind of assumed that was the point of installing it but wasn't sure if that was just conjecture on my part. I remember for years hearing that they owned the land basically up to that little bar on 64 but never had the impetus to develop it. Now that I'm in the midwest, a lot of the Cleveland guys tell me they LOVE Bristol and I really feel like they could compete for that weekend destination business with Holiday Valley.
post #13 of 19
Hey John V (or anyone else),
Does anyone know what the total plan for Bristol Mt is?  How far are they going to expand over?  Do they have a grand plan worked out with even more lifts?  I've been mulling over buying a ski property somewhere in the vicinity, and if they were planning a major expansion, I'd be tempted to get in sooner than later.  I've been watching the market there for the last year and a half, and I can't believe how cheap everything is.  If it turned into the next Holiday Valley, there'd definitely be some money to be made... long term of course.

Any word? 
post #14 of 19

OK, I'll repeat what I've heard, and at Bristol the rumors fly with total abandon........

Expansion to the north: First step is running Universe and North Star to the bottom.Pretty much confirmed to happen over the summer.Next supposedly will be a dedicated race trail to the north of those to shut up all the people who bitch about races on Comet. (Those of us who race there regularly would like to see racing moved to Meteor-a much more interesting slope than Comet). AFAIK, Bristol owns land in back of Locks (the bar) and I've heard talk of a 6 pack there.

Other expansion: They own to the ridge west of the Morningstar quad and at some point may have a pod of trails back there also.

Drawbacks: Water-the snowmaking pond will need to be enlarged to support the needed snowmaking to cover new terrain.Bristol doesn't have the natural snow that E'ville gets, especially early in the season when it's needed. Trails are no good without snow.

Lack of a village. HV and Holimont have E'ville right there. From Bristol, Naples and Canadaigua are 15-20 minutes away over back roads.

Hard to say what the future will bring. Dan Fuller (Bristol principal stockholder) is a conservative businessman, but has done improvements every year,some spectacular like the new HSQ and some less splashy but still vital like fan guns and better water supplies. I travel around Central and WNY for Masters races and see what other areas have or haven't done and I realize how spoiled I am to have Bristol 45 minutes from home.
Potential-who knows? I think you'll see gradual changes year to year, but no huge one year splash-it's not Dan's style. I may not live long enough to see some of the things happen that are rumored............

post #15 of 19
John,
Thanks for the great response.  It certainly will be interesting to see the improvements year over year... Cutting Universe and North Star down to the bottom is nice, as they seem to have a bit more character than some of the more central trails.  

As a local, would you be able to speculate on the potential of the real estate market in the Bristol Valley area?  I quite like it down there.  The County Rd 33 valley is really nice too.  My kids are too young to ski now, but when they are old enough, it'd be nice to have a place down there.  I think I've sold the idea to my wife as well, as she loves the US shopping Rochester way.  We've been there in the summer, and found it even nicer than the winter.  Canandaigua and Honeoye Lakes really are something special with the big hills to the south.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by John V. View Post

OK, I'll repeat what I've heard, and at Bristol the rumors fly with total abandon........

Expansion to the north: First step is running Universe and North Star to the bottom.Pretty much confirmed to happen over the summer.Next supposedly will be a dedicated race trail to the north of those to shut up all the people who bitch about races on Comet. (Those of us who race there regularly would like to see racing moved to Meteor-a much more interesting slope than Comet). AFAIK, Bristol owns land in back of Locks (the bar) and I've heard talk of a 6 pack there.

Other expansion: They own to the ridge west of the Morningstar quad and at some point may have a pod of trails back there also.

Drawbacks: Water-the snowmaking pond will need to be enlarged to support the needed snowmaking to cover new terrain.Bristol doesn't have the natural snow that E'ville gets, especially early in the season when it's needed. Trails are no good without snow.

Lack of a village. HV and Holimont have E'ville right there. From Bristol, Naples and Canadaigua are 15-20 minutes away over back roads.

Hard to say what the future will bring. Dan Fuller (Bristol principal stockholder) is a conservative businessman, but has done improvements every year,some spectacular like the new HSQ and some less splashy but still vital like fan guns and better water supplies. I travel around Central and WNY for Masters races and see what other areas have or haven't done and I realize how spoiled I am to have Bristol 45 minutes from home.
Potential-who knows? I think you'll see gradual changes year to year, but no huge one year splash-it's not Dan's style. I may not live long enough to see some of the things happen that are rumored............


Awesome, thanks- a top-to-bottom Universe and North Star would be so cool!!! Very much agree with you on the switch back to Meteor (especially a widened homologated version.) This is once again available thanks to the addition of Lower Galaxy allowing the use of the entire run... the Comet-to-Outer Orbit GS/SG is much less interesting.

As for the land west of the Morningstar Quad... it faces Southwest, which would mean it would be useable only in probably January and February. Even in the biggest dumps of March it would melt off too fast in the spring sun.

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John,
Thanks for the great response.  It certainly will be interesting to see the improvements year over year... Cutting Universe and North Star down to the bottom is nice, as they seem to have a bit more character than some of the more central trails.  

As a local, would you be able to speculate on the potential of the real estate market in the Bristol Valley area?  I quite like it down there.  The County Rd 33 valley is really nice too.  My kids are too young to ski now, but when they are old enough, it'd be nice to have a place down there.  I think I've sold the idea to my wife as well, as she loves the US shopping Rochester way.  We've been there in the summer, and found it even nicer than the winter.  Canandaigua and Honeoye Lakes really are something special with the big hills to the south.

The Finger Lakes are even better in the summer than the winter, and I grew up skiing at Bristol. I love Conesus Lake in particular- although that's about a 45 minute drive from Bristol so less useful as a dual-season house. I think like most of WNY, the FLakes real estate market is stable. Not like you are going to see a big boom but you aren't going to see a huge fallout, either.
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As for the land west of the Morningstar Quad... it faces Southwest, which would mean it would be useable only in probably January and February. Even in the biggest dumps of March it would melt off too fast in the spring sun.
 

The ridge I'm refering to is actually a north-south ridge, so the exposure would still be east. Expansion in that area would really change the feel of Bristol. One thing nice about HV is how the vistas change as you move around the area.
 
post #18 of 19
Ok, so I was at Loon this past weekend and I did not see any new trails at South Peak.  Same trails as I saw end of last season.  Great stuff (Rip Saw and Cruiser) but nothing new.  The trail map does indicate two new trails in development though.  Anyone have any further info on this?
post #19 of 19

Gore Mtn. in New York is completing a series of improvements this year.  Here's the description from Gore's web site:

 

BURNT RIDGE MOUNTAIN CONTINUES TO IMPROVE - Burnt Ridge Mountain, one of Gore’s newest peaks of development, has been on a continuous run of improvements since its 2008/2009 opening.  2010/2011 will introduce a 3500’ glade called Barkeater!  It will connect guests from the summit of Burnt Ridge Mountain to Roaring Brook Bridge, from which skiers can either access the base of the Burnt Ridge Quad, or Little Gore Mountain trails to the North Creek Ski Bowl.  Last season on Burnt Ridge, Gore added snowmaking to the monster Sagamore trail, cut the Eagle’s Nest trail, extended the Cirque Glades, and improved the grade of Cedars.    

 

 

 

GORE MOUNTAIN’S INTERCONNECT WITH THE HISTORIC NORTH CREEK SKI BOWL – Gore Mountain will introduce an all-new pod of skiing and commemorate the historic event of its Interconnect with the North Creek Ski Bowl.  Five trails will offer terrain for all abilities, serviced by the new Hudson Chair:

 

 

Peaceful Valley- A 1.2 mile cruiser with snowmaking.  Ski the upper half and then head for Burnt Ridge via Eagle’s Nest, or run the lower half back to the Bowl.

 

The Oak Ridge Trail- We hung onto the historic name and profile of this classic Ski Bowl trail, but are adding snowmaking! 

 

Moxham- This trail will bring you back in time, to some of the earliest skiing in the Creek.  Check out views of the Gore Region we haven't  seen in over thirty years.

 

Half 'n' Half Glade- A mini-glade that lets you have The Oak Ridge Trail, Moxham, & Village Slopes, all from one ride on the Hudson Chair!

 

46er- Big and bad on the lift line.  Hang on and dig in.

 

These new trails will comprise approximately three miles and 19 acres of skiing.  During 2009/2010, Gore Mountain opened Ski Bowl Lodge, offering new restrooms and seating, updated ticketing, and modernized foodservice.  The half-pipe there was made wider, taller, and steeper.  As in past seasons, Gore Mountain will continue to offer daytime and twilight skiing and riding on "Village Slopes", a terrain park, an excellent tubing park featuring 800’ lift-serviced chutes, and several family-oriented events at the Bowl.

 

I'm most interested in the new Barkeater Glades and the 46er.  My friends checked out the 46er earlier this fall and said it will be steep and narrow, as advertised.  Should be a fun bump run.  Since it's under the lift line I expect it will be dependent on natural snow.

 

STE

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