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post #31 of 492/12/10 at 12:40pmpost #32 of 492/12/10 at 1:01pm- UGASkiDawg
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Quote:Originally Posted by skier219
I am sorry to see the Mothership is not in Line's 2011 offering -- almost makes me want to buy a spare pair and put them in storage. They must be thinking the Prophet 115 will fill that niche, but the construction looks identical to the 90/100 models, which are much lighter and less beefy skis than the Mothership. When I skied the P100 a couple years back, I found it wasn't that great on hard snow, and was a bit of a handful in bumps. One of the things I like about the Mothership is that it's surprisingly good on hard snow and groomers at high speed, and nimbler than expected in bumps. Be interesting to see reports trickle in on the P115.
You must have skied a different ski than the P100's I've been skiing the for the last 2 years...they rock on hard snow and are easy peasy in the bumpspost #33 of 492/12/10 at 3:36pm- Noodler
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yep - the Mo'ship is definitely in the 2011 lineup (it was at SIA and it's in the catalog). Absolutely no changes for next season - same everything.- skier219
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Oh, that's good news then -- I haven't seen them in previous 2011 pics, and their absence was conspicuous. Glad they are in fact coming back. Graphics look only slightly changed from the 2010 model.post #35 of 492/14/10 at 6:26pm- BushwackerinPA
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got to see some 185 in person huge ski they must only measure the contact lenght or something in that 185 measurement.- skier219
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Yeah, they are comparable in overall length to a 189cm ski.post #37 of 492/28/10 at 10:24pm- Jancouver
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Just got back from Mammoth where I was skiing 09 Motherships 195cm exclusively for a week. During the one week of our trip, we got over six feet of powder. Let me repeat, six (6) feet of fresh powder in one week.
About me. 36, 6'5 197lb intermediate skiing about 3-4 weeks per year. I love to go fast and I love fresh pow. My skis are mounted with Look PX 15 so pretty heavy combo. The weight is not a problem and I can ski them all day.
These skis are super stable and stiff. I find them very easy to turn and have enough fun with them even on groomed snow. That being said, in a deep pow, these skis need some speed. In slow speeds, they are not that easy to turn and they dont float as well but once you get them going they are just amazing. Many skis can do well in a fresh and un-tracked (powder) snow but hey, lets be realistic, it takes half an hour and the entire mountain is trucked out and thats where these babies shine. I can go down with confidence and whatever you will put in front of us will be crushed
Powder, crust, hard pack, slush, ice ... just bring it on.
If I could have only one pair of skis, my choice would be very easy.... Line Motherships!
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You are sure right about speed -- of all the skis I have taken through a lot of powder and crud, the Motherships are the ones that call for the most speed but then reward you with the most confidence. I find it's good to just point them and go, then let them blast, bomb, and skip over anything in the path. Here are a couple helmet cam vids from Alta last week, where the combination of powder and bumps, then powder over bumps, made for some aggressive skiing on the Motherships. You can see how active my ski tips are when gunning through some of that stuff.post #39 of 497/26/10 at 11:57pmJust bought a pair of 011 Motherships after a short demo and reading the reviews on here. As I found the 185cm a bit short I took
a punt and got the 195cm and there was absolutly no learning curve whatsoever on or off piste and my confidence in heavy wet powder
was substantially improved. The skis I have owned for the last 4 years have been Volkl AC4 and 50 and my interest in trying a fat
rocker came about after seeing a guy fly past on his rockers when I had got bogged down on the AC's. On groomed slopes the MShips
felt very similar to my 184cm AC's as I noted in reviews both skis are labeled as "Hard Chargers". The MShips have a softer tail than
the AC's which compensates for the much wider width when turning while still offering the same high speed charging ability.
If you do not like AC's you will not like the MShips in my opinion as both skis require reasonable effort to ski.
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An Interesting ski but thin by standards. No meat for the binding direct to the ski.
line needs to make a plate.
Reported issues of bindings pulling off is of major concern?
Have they corrected this?
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^^^^Hmmmm Where have you heard about that??
I have never seen or heard of anything like this happening on there newer skis. Last time I had heard of this occurring on any LINE ski was when they were attempting to produce there own binding.
post #42 of 497/28/10 at 3:11amQuote:Originally Posted by Candy
The line Ski
An Interesting ski but thin by standards. No meat for the binding direct to the ski.
line needs to make a plate.
Reported issues of bindings pulling off is of major concern?
Have they corrected this?
Maybe the shop drilled the holes too big. One thing that was of concern it is made in China but so is K2 and Ive never had any problem with my Chinese K2 (Public Enemies)
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Yep. The 195 mothers are everything you don't want in your own mother - super easy and fast as hell.
Quote:Originally Posted by Cassina
Just bought a pair of 011 Motherships after a short demo and reading the reviews on here. As I found the 185cm a bit short I took
a punt and got the 195cm and there was absolutly no learning curve whatsoever on or off piste and my confidence in heavy wet powder
was substantially improved. The skis I have owned for the last 4 years have been Volkl AC4 and 50 and my interest in trying a fat
rocker came about after seeing a guy fly past on his rockers when I had got bogged down on the AC's. On groomed slopes the MShips
felt very similar to my 184cm AC's as I noted in reviews both skis are labeled as "Hard Chargers". The MShips have a softer tail than
the AC's which compensates for the much wider width when turning while still offering the same high speed charging ability.
If you do not like AC's you will not like the MShips in my opinion as both skis require reasonable effort to ski.
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Hi
1st post so sorry if its not exactly in the right place.
I'm thinking of either the line 115 motherships or Lib Tech NAS Magic Horse, and comments and or real life experience, im 6'3" and 200 lbs fit and can ski.
thanks
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Those are both completely different ski's. What is your intention?post #46 of 4910/17/10 at 2:27amI have now had 8 days on my 195cm Motherships and have taken them from powder to ice and have felt just as confident on them as
my 85mm underwaist Volkl AC50s. I drive them with a 130 flex boot though which I am sure has an effect on how well they handle.
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Im more and more leaning toward the MShip. Im thinking Dukes for these bad boys to get some extra boot hight on them for lay them over. I realize this will make them very heavy but im used to that. That way I can also experament with sort little treks off the beaten path more. Only a few 100 yards maybe a little further just to get into the untracked some times. I find the extra boot hight works on the JJ,s for carving on ice like yesterday. I also have a pair of Hart Fulie Boss skis that are very heavy skis I love when the going gets tough and I want to bomb everything in my path at mack snell!!. Any one have Dukes or Barrons on these Motherships? Or seen them on a pair? Im 6ft 230lbs agressive skier. Never been passed in my life and dont plan on letting anyone by me in the near furture. Sounds like these can do it all. The Fulies and my Jetfuels are fast but suck in Powder compared to the JJ,s. The JJ,s are marginal at best on hard groomers. Need to have a better combo ski were I live. I hate leaving a pair in the rack all day if I dont need them or making two trips to the SUV!! Also theres pow at the top but not at the bottom lots!! Makes for a half mountain of goodness with the wrong ski on at the time!! Quivers are for the birds these days time to get with the program and just have one for everything and one for ice at the most. 30 years ago we did just fine on Olin mk 6,s in a 205. With the new tech rise tips and tails these 111 under footers sound like the magic pill for us big guys for 99% of the 40-60 days a year to me. Great thread just what I was looking for!! Its hard to find pretty much 100% positive feed back from bigger skiers.
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Quote:Originally Posted by whipper
Im more and more leaning toward the MShip. Im thinking Dukes for these bad boys to get some extra boot hight on them for lay them over. I realize this will make them very heavy but im used to that. That way I can also experament with sort little treks off the beaten path more. Only a few 100 yards maybe a little further just to get into the untracked some times. I find the extra boot hight works on the JJ,s for carving on ice like yesterday. I also have a pair of Hart Fulie Boss skis that are very heavy skis I love when the going gets tough and I want to bomb everything in my path at mack snell!!. Any one have Dukes or Barrons on these Motherships? Or seen them on a pair? Im 6ft 230lbs agressive skier. Never been passed in my life and dont plan on letting anyone by me in the near furture. Sounds like these can do it all. The Fulies and my Jetfuels are fast but suck in Powder compared to the JJ,s. The JJ,s are marginal at best on hard groomers. Need to have a better combo ski were I live. I hate leaving a pair in the rack all day if I dont need them or making two trips to the SUV!! Also theres pow at the top but not at the bottom lots!! Makes for a half mountain of goodness with the wrong ski on at the time!! Quivers are for the birds these days time to get with the program and just have one for everything and one for ice at the most. 30 years ago we did just fine on Olin mk 6,s in a 205. With the new tech rise tips and tails these 111 under footers sound like the magic pill for us big guys for 99% of the 40-60 days a year to me. Great thread just what I was looking for!! Its hard to find pretty much 100% positive feed back from bigger skiers.
I have Atomic 6-14 Din bindings on mine. They are metal and feel more solid to click into than the
plastic Markers but are not touring bindings. From what you say about your ability get the 195cm
as I demoed the 185 and found them a bit too short on hard snow. There was no learning curve when buying the 195 and the rockerd tip combined with the slightly soft tail offset the width on hard snow without any loss of stability. In powder they felt even shorter.
post #49 of 498/3/12 at 9:35amPSA
REI Outlet has a 20% off sale going through August 9th, and they currently have 2010 Motherships in 185 and 195 lengths at $420.83, so with the 20% that would bring it down to ~$340, and they offer free shipping for local REI store pickup.
http://www.rei.com/outlet/coupons/20pctcoupon.html
http://www.rei.com/product/822038/line-mothership-skis-2010-closeout
EDIT:
My intentions were good, but just saw them online here, same lengths, for $280...
http://www.skis.com/Line-Mothership-Skis-2011/228853P,default,pd.html
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