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Video for MA Practice (Pressure)

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Location: Sugar Bowl
Run: Donner's way
Conditions: Mid day spring Sierra soft with hard pack under. partly skied out
Type of run: This is a black diamond run (usually groomed but one of our steeper runs)

Video Clip

Let's break this down by Turn Mechanics


Pressure seems to be managed using extension/flexion (minimal but there)
Initial pressure is created by a slight up movement as the skier initiates the turn, then generated by the turn shape at the bottom of the turn.
post #2 of 7

This appears to be the same skier as in the turn shape MA clip. I'd agree with your description of the pressure control movement we see here, however I think his turns to the left and right vary so much for the reasons I postulated in my observations in that post, that I would think the overwhelming pressure control issue is the dramatic edge set at the bottom of turns to the left, producing a near hockey stop completion of the turns to the left. The up movement seems more pronounced in turns to the right, and probably for the reason that his left leg is spent and he wants to whip it around dramatically to start the turn. Again he needs to learn to ski more offensively, to make the movements more continous throughout a turn rather than a sudden braking action at the bottom of each turn.
What do you think?
post #3 of 7
RH turn:

Pressure is applied too far back on the tail of the skis, very late in the turn. Pressure is applied rapidly by inclination -- note the RH position.

LH turns, pressure is applied earlier and especially more smoothly when the turns are more rounded. However, on all turns, pressure is released too early as the turns are not completed. Pressure is generally applied too far back on the tails, with few exceptions where the turns are rounder.

On the better LH turns, the skier applies more pressure towards the shovels of the ski, which is evidenced by the skis coming around quicker, and his stance being more athletic.
post #4 of 7
Sorry, I got a momentary attack of dyslexia. Swap LH and RH please.
post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
Yes Lou, Same video. The idea was for me to work on each individual movement pattern. It didn't mean that this was the worst part of this person's skiing but that the focus was the specific movement. This refinement of focus helps me and hopefully others learn to separate all the different movements, Initiation, cause, and effect. Then when we can sort them out, maybe we can come to a better understanding of what is the most lacking movement or maybe not even the lacking movement but the one thing that is holding this skier back. Sometimes it's not what we think. Sometimes as I found out during our L3 clinic was that what we all thought was a cause and then tried to "ski" it or work it out, that the movement we saw was really an effect of a earlier movement.

Thanks again all for playing along.

post #6 of 7
is this skier on a trail where the fall-line is down to the skiers right? that would explain the differences between right and left turns (i.e. small turn on the high side followed by a big "bottom turn" to the left).

post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
Not a double fall line.
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