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post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Heya!

I've been lurking in the forums for a bit and perhaps finally have a useful question for the group...

I spent 3 blissful days over the holiday demoing some Blizzard Titan Atlas skis at Northstar.

Loved the 'float' in some of the new snow I found off-piste.
Loved how light the skis felt.
Comfortable in groomed turns.
Decent hold in the moguls, but not the quickest ski I've tried...could be ski length? (180)
Occasionally felt a little draggy at start/low speeds.
Crud required a little extra push than I expected, perhaps due to ski lightness.

Overall, I think this was the best demo ski I've tried in 3 years. The last couple demos were from K2, which I didn't care for at all.

I am 6'2"/180 high advanced skier in very good shape (for a 39 year old, LOL!).

I stopped skiing for about 15 years due to life circumstances, and picked it back up about 3 years ago. The last pair of skis I owned were a skinny pair of Rossignols, size 215. Parabolics have changed everything - the last time I was on a pair of 180/185 skis was when I was about 14 years old.

I feel like I'm at the point where I should just buy a solid all mountain ski instead of renting.

This is what I've narrowed my search to:
Blizzard (May have to try Cronus) <--great experience with Atlas, also like the IQ binding system
Dynastar (Legend Sultan 85) <--expertskier.com loved these for 2010
Head (Peak 78) <--Love the liquidmetal technology

Based on the amount of exposure I get in a given year (about 15-20 ski days) I'm looking for a 1-ski quiver.

What I've been skiing is 50/40/10 groomed/trees/park. I'll take powder any chance I get...just doesn't seem to be a lot left when I finally arrive.

I am teaching my kid to ski, so I spend a fair amount of time backwards or some other contortion trying to watch what she's doing. I'm not looking for twin tips, but am open to the possibility.

Any voices of experience out there care to chime in?

Thanks,
Tahome
post #2 of 11
One option is to try the offering from a Local Ski Manufacture
Demo and Purchase through Porters
I would think The Tahoe or the Firebird.  But hell try allot of them
http://www.momentskis.com/


Or look at
http://praxisskis.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=11&category_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=29

Or  My favorite
http://www.pmgear.com/
Edited by MTT - 1/7/10 at 2:03pm
post #3 of 11
Quote:
This is what I've narrowed my search to:

Blizzard (May have to try Cronus) <--great experience with Atlas,  I think this was the best demo ski I've tried in 3 years. also like the IQ binding system
Dynastar (Legend Sultan 85) <--expertskier.com loved these for 2010Overall,
Head (Peak 78) <--Love the liquidmetal technology
You tried a demo for 3 days and liked it.....good news.
You have a list of  a couple of other similar skis that you might like too....also good news.

So........................................

I'm not sure what the question is. If the question is what ski you should buy....it sounds like you answered that with your endorsement of the Atlas. If the question is where to buy an Atlas, that's easy enough....try the world famous Start Haus in Truckee. If it is where to demo or buy the Sultan or Cronus....same answer.

Now, if the question is should I buy something different than the Demo that I really liked or something different than the other skis I listed, then my question to you is....how do you want a ski to be different than what you demoed and liked. It sounds a little like this. "I tried this ski and loved it..............now please confuse me with other suggestions."

My.....$0.02

SJ
post #4 of 11
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post




You tried a demo for 3 days and liked it.....good news.
You have a list of  a couple of other similar skis that you might like too....also good news.

So........................................

I'm not sure what the question is. If the question is what ski you should buy....it sounds like you answered that with your endorsement of the Atlas. If the question is where to buy an Atlas, that's easy enough....try the world famous Start Haus in Truckee. If it is where to demo or buy the Sultan or Cronus....same answer.

Now, if the question is should I buy something different than the Demo that I really liked or something different than the other skis I listed, then my question to you is....how do you want a ski to be different than what you demoed and liked. It sounds a little like this. "I tried this ski and loved it..............now please confuse me with other suggestions."

My.....$0.02

SJ

 

Haha! Fair enough. I appreciate your request for clarification.

My experience with the Blizzards was great, but I wanted to see if other people might have tried the Peak 78 because I am concerned about buying from a smaller manufacturer (limited budget for materials research) and am intrigued about Head's liquidmetal technology.

The Dynastars were 2010 ski of the year at expertskier.com and appeared to fit an ideal profile, but I found out they're likely to be poorly tuned out of the box...not a problem per se, but I hate paying for poor construction. It's the kind of dirt I'd like to hear about Blizzard/Head - if it exists.

If I could have asked for additional performance out of the Blizzard, it would be quicker through the bumps and a little less work in the crud.

Head/Dynastar both appear to have that...but do they lack the light float?

Thank you for your feedback, SJ - I really appreciate it.

Tahome
post #5 of 11
OK....first, don't sweat the smaller manufacturer thing. Blizzard is part of the Nordica, Tecnica, Blizzard group and is a very well funded brand with a larger worldwide market share than Head.

As far as tuning, we suggest that every ski be tuned before you ski it. All are skiable out of the wrapper, all will be much better if a good technician tunes them.....just the way it is.

As far as bumps, yes both the Head and the Dynastar will be quicker turning....they are narrower so that's the bennie. Of course the payback with the narrower skis is less float when the snow is deepish.

For crud, I'd say the Atlas is best, Sultan second, Peak 78 third.

I'm not suggesting that you not try another ski however be careful of getting "lost in demoland". The "whattabout this-whattabout that" kind of thing can keep you skiing on old skis forever b/c you get too confused to ever make a decision on a new one.

It ain't rocket science......................

SJ
post #6 of 11
Sorry to arouse a dead thread for my first posting.  Does the Dynastar Sultan do anything better than the Blizzard Atlas outside of quick turns and mogul skiing?  First post on site.
post #7 of 11
Despite the difference in waist width, the skill sets of those two are similar. The Sultan is generally better on harder snow conditions than the Atlas and the Atlas is somewhat better in deeper conditions but both are pretty good in those differing conditions.

SJ
post #8 of 11

Sierra Jim,
I passed my alotement of one daily PM.  Thank you for your insight in advance. I want a good carver/fast/fun ski to complement my 185 Motherships.  Would the Blizzards fill the bill in normal so cal, tahoe, mammoth conditions, and springtime Utah resort corn?  I am 40 with a ten year old new ACL (in good condition due to lots of weight training).  Enjoy soft bumps anytime but will choose tree and crud 50%, steep groomers 30%, and hardish moguls only 20% anymore.  I am 215 lbs and need a daily driver when the snow is 5 days or more old. Love to carve, but also like to smash old snow when it is around in the trees or waiting to be smeared on natural transition off to the side on the way back to a lift. I am looking for ski that will hold a longish carve, but also pop up quick and lively in short radius turns. The Sultans and Titans both would be great I am sure, but with my weight and skier type can you give me a best suggestion?  Thanks for answering my redundancy.  I know you are an expert on the performance of both of these.

post #9 of 11
Not easy to throw a definitive answer on this 'cuz both are great skis. I couldn't decide between the two myself so I've ended up with both. For an OSQ with a bias toward off trail, the Atlas gets the nod but since you are going to have a versatile big ski to go with............I'd give a slim nod to the Sultan.

Uhhhhhh.............unless you like the color of the Atlas better..................

Just joking......but it's really very close.

SJ
post #10 of 11
I can't do both unfortunately.   And finding a good carver that will pop out of sharp turns and smear trailside junk is a lot to hope for.  What length of each for 6'1 and 215lbs?  I would be interested in either. High 170's for the Blizzard or bigger?  Low 180s or smaller for the Dynastar?  I checked the starthaus site and your #3 deal post and it looks like you have both skis. 

I was curious.  How does the Blizzard Answer 2009 and Titan Argos 2010 stack up against the Line Mothership 2010 for a powder and crud slashing rocket?

Thank you for taking the time.  



Also, I told my girlfriend to join epic ski.  She is also trying to find the right ski for her.  She might be asking you a question or two. 
post #11 of 11
Atlas is 180 or 187 so it's a pretty clear choice. The Sultan is 178 or 184 so it's a closer call there. I ski the Atlas in 180 and the Sultan in 178 and both are fine for me @ 200# L-8 skier.

The '09 Answer is a conventional twin with soft extremities and a medium middle. It is a playful type powder ski. The '10 Argos is flat camber and pretty firm in flex. I'd put it more in the "big mountain" category along with the MS. The distinction there is just that the stiffer skis have more speed capability and stability (big mountain) but are not as easy or nimble as the softer (playful powder) category.

SJ
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