Originally Posted by Jacques
I'm going to second Moulmunghers comment. I ski older skis, and have skied shaped as well. I think what you want to do is great. It is a different way of skiing. Learn to do it! You can do it!
One thing I like about a straighter, narrower ski is the way one can really ski the old parallel style keeping the knees, ad ankles locked. Keeping weight even on both skis. It's a ton of fun!
I also tune skis, and you do it the same. I advocate not to de-tune any ski. If the tip, and tail are not sharp, the ski won't flex as well, and you won't carve as well. The thing to do is be sure you have a 1 degree base bevel from tip to tail.
Some people put a 1.5 or 2 degree at tip, and tail, while the rest is at 1 degree, but that is a big pain in the you know what!
Good luck, and I hope that helps you decide what to do.
One more thing "5'11" and 120 lbs. 185's should be fine if im not mistaken
." I'm about the same as you just a little shorter, and I go from 185, to 195's and it's no problem. You can do it. Wax the heck out of them though, because they are more than likely dry. If you dig them, then go get a grind on them, and prep them again.
Well, here's what happened. I took them to the shop and had them stone ground before even going out on them. Someone - either the shop before or me in a spastic tuning fit years ago had put some sort of god awful 2+ degree base edge on them. I had them done at 1 degree even though I was cringing but I just didn't have the time to do it and meet Rossi Smash the next day with tuned skis ready to go. I didn't have him detune the tips and tails.
The interesting thing was the guy who did them was working in a different shop but was the same guy who did them roughly ten years ago. Hmmm, come to think of it, I used to argue with that shop later with early shaped skis about why they put 2 degree base bevels on junior skis.
Originally Posted by Ghost
I say razor sharp tip to tail, 0.5 base, 3 side. Works for me.
Mind you, if you like to pivot your skis without decambering them, instead of bending them into a curve and carving with them, you might want to go to a 1,3 set up, and if you're a little spastic , you might want to detune a foot or so from the tips and six inches off the tails; that way the tips and tails won't have too much force to confound you with when you mishandle them and will be able to put up less of a fight when you steer them where they don't want to go.
Just one tip for "straight" skis on hardpack, you might sometimes have to put your weight on the tips and bend them a bit before you tip them. Other than that it's pretty much the same drill - tip to turn and if they're not turning, go faster and tip more.
Well I was definitely a little spastic! This was the first day on snow afterall...I ended up skiing a fair amount of heavy powder on trails that were sort of closed. I confess at lunch I couldn't take the grabbiness of the tips and "detuned" them with an aluminum ski pole I borrowed at the rental area while no one else but Arewolf was looking. (Clearly my finest hour with the straights)
I'm not sure how much difference it made because after that is when we skied the not so soft soft stuff. Note that quads were a burnin' on the low pitch trail with heavy snow with sitting back. It ain't easy chasing the youngsters on their fat potato chip skis in heavy snow.
I definitely needed more time to dial in the technique, but was forced the next day by self preservation and keeping up with these people of the new century to get the shapes out. (Remember the commercial,"How do you
Bend before tipping - now that might have helped. Now, have you run that by Harald?