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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
I am signed up for my level 2 teaching at Bromley. Anyone else going to this? Maybe we can share some ideas.
And to the examiners-any helpful hints to get us through this?
Any thoughts would be appreciated!

post #2 of 17
STUDY! Be ready to apply what you teach to any age group. Always end with skiing. Keep the explanations short and simple. When leading the group SKI, give feedback. Don't have people only make 2 turns to a stop. Be active in the group discussions. Draw from your experience! Do not try to make something up last minute. Do what you know. Be positive in your approach. Get a 100 on the test. Enjoy the experience. Be confident. Be involved when others are teaching.
post #3 of 17
Do everything Todo said, especially about skiing in your teaching phase, but don't talk too much. I rode the chair with an examiner last weekend who wanted to get away from his group for one ride up because he just had to get a break from the two overtalkative candidates it included.
post #4 of 17
Would be very interested if you let us know how the course went.
post #5 of 17
In your teaching presentation be able to answer the following for the examiner: "I am using this sequence of exercises to create this specific change in the students skiing which will benefit the student because this new movement pattern will fulfill these needs or desires."

Put another way- WHAT are you teaching, WHY are you teaching it and HOW will it benefit the student.

Good Luck [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #6 of 17
I did the Level 3 teaching exam this year. I downloaded the study guide and printed the pages with the module descriptions, and I carried that in my pocket so I could refer to them during the exam. That way I what what I was being scored on in each module. Think of each module as a 10 minute opportunity to do or say 4 things. If you know what those 4 things are, it shoould be easy.
Also, get the manuals and especially the "Movement Analysis Pocket Guide" from PSIA. At least one of my examiners was using the Pocket Guide to score the exam. It's important to read the most current stuff just to be familiar with the terms the examiners use to describe movements. Read Terry Barbour's article about pressure control in the Winter 2003 Professional Skier for the same reason.
Finally, everyone in my exam group who focused on movement that starts from the feet and moves the center of mass down the hill passed. Anyone who did drills that focused on hand or body positions, or tried stepping to the uphill ski or lifting the new inside ski, or did exercises to increase counter and angulation, failed.
Good luck and let me know how you do.

post #7 of 17
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone for the valuable feedback! John are you refering to the Visual cues for effective and ineffective skiing? I have all the other manuals and have been studying quite a bit. We have gone through 2 of the four modules with our technical supervisor.The part that worries me the most is the movement assesment. With the new format there are very few people who have been through this. (only in it's second season)
My new thing in teaching right now is all about the inside ski and I have been trying out Bob Barnes right tip right left tip left!! It works really well!
Any others that have been through the new format?

Thanks again,
post #8 of 17
I was having a chuckle reading John D's description of how to fail the exam. He was describing what was taught, and encouraged to be taught, at my last aussie hill. Rather incredible and not representative of aussie teaching (the instructors doing this were from Canada).
post #9 of 17
Go in there confident and relaxed!
I took the new format of the exam last year and found that it was very candidate friendly!
The MA portion gives you a chance to show that you have a good eye and understand the movements involved in skiing. The best way that I have found to do this is to look at the skier and give a quick overall assessment are they in balance(fore and aft and laterally) then I start from the feet and move up looking at the skiers movement patterns.
Do the skis tip and move together or is there a sequential move? Is there flexion and extension from the ankle or are they static at this joint?
Is there flexion and extension at the knee or is this joint static, the Hips?
Does their CM flow down the hill or are there times that its' flow is interrupted?
Upper body; are they moving down the hill quietly or are there extra moves?
If there are extra moves do they disrupt the flow of the skis?

These are the basics that I look at, while looking at these realize that flawed movement patterns that you may see are the result so think about what the cause may be for each move.
What is moving, when is it moving, where is it moving, and how is it moving?
Practice verbalizing these observations while watching skiers at your MTN. I encourage our coaches to try to give a running commentary both good and bad of skiers they see while riding the lift.
In the exam the person being tested would stand with the examiner and give a running commentary on the other candidates while they skied through a task (IE. Lane changes or a syncro ski).
This was the part of the exam that people seemed most nervous about but I found that it was a nice way of doing it. I took my level 2 alpine when they used the old format of watching a video then teaching what you would have taught those skiers, and my level 3 alpine with the new format, I would say that I liked the new format better.

Lastly a good resource for this is the old Alpine standards film in it the sound is poor but Peter Howard does just what you will be asked to do, he give a running commentary of skiers as they ski different tasks.
Best of luck!!!
It's not the destination that counts, it's the Journey!
post #10 of 17
The reference I was referring to was the "Pocket Guide," which looks like several small color cards on a ring. It costs $4.50 from PSIA-E. I don't have it but I wish I had had it during my exam, if only to have the most current terminology (some of which I was unfamiliar with).
Oklahoma is right about the new Movement Analysis format. I was concerned about all the synchro skiing tasks, but I was only asked to look at one skier and lead an excercise too address his needs while also involving the whole group. That was pretty easy because the synchro skiing put everybody on the brakes at the end of the turn, so I only needed to do something to get them off edge early.
If you've been following Bob Barnes' exercises, and understand the purpose for them and the skills they are designed to develop, you shouldn't have any trouble.
BTW, if you are aked any question that begins with "how much?" the answer is always "just enough."

Again, good luck,


[ March 06, 2003, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: John Dowling ]
post #11 of 17
Thread Starter 
So John, what did you do for this. Maybe some kind of skating excersise? Why were they slamming on the brakes at the end of the turn? Skiing to close to the person in front? Too much edge set? Inappropriate turn shape? Please feed me more I am like a thirsty sponge right now.
We do alot of analysis from our chairlift rides but still all these people are not ski instructors that have past the skiing part of an exam.
Hopefully I can make some assesments of our group before my turn.
And thanks for that "just enough" tip!


PS-I do have the Movement Assesment pocket guide. I carry it with me always!

[ March 06, 2003, 12:14 PM: Message edited by: TCarey ]
post #12 of 17
Originally posted by TCarey:
So John, what did you do for this. Maybe some kind of skating excersise? Why were they slamming on the brakes at the end of the turn? Skiing to close to the person in front? Too much edge set? Inappropriate turn shape?
What put everyone on the brakes was trying to keep their place in a synchro skiing formation. Synchro skiing is pretty hard unless you practice it a lot. My solution was simply to tell them all to flatten their skis in the fall line, way before the end of the turn. It results in a real skiddy turn finish. Keep in mind these guys had all passed Level 3 skiing, so they had all practiced every standard exercise for years, and it takes something unusual to get them into a different movement pattern. I had actually never done that drill myself, but when I realized I wasn't sure I could do the demo, it was too late to change the plan. As simple as that drill was, it scored a 4 for 4.
The home run for me was outrigger turns. You get as low to the snow as possible, with one leg extended straight to the side. You point down the hill and get carving on the extended leg while riding a flat ski on the inside leg. When the forces build up, switch legs. The next step is switch legs but keep your hips low to the snow. The next step is get the inside ski up on edge. Emphasize a wide stance, and moving forward, as all the flexing tends to put you in the backseat. This drill is fast and fun, and Level 2's should be able to do it easily.

post #13 of 17
ALL that preceded my comments are valid. You might want to get your group together. Work together, consult together, be there for each other. Your group is not the enemy. If you share your thoughts thru-out all can grow together. Work for each other. Do not be a loner.
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
To all,
Thanks again for all your words of wisdom. I am on my way to Vt to teach and train this weekend. Hopefully we will focus on MA.
Please keep your thoughts coming. I will let you know how our training when I return on Tuesday.

Yours Truly,
post #15 of 17
I just finished my level III exam at Steamboat today. I passed. I did well on the teaching I suppose. I got eights and nines. I REALLY KEPT IT SIMPLE. My "student" was the poster child for "rotary pushoff". My focus was on getting to neutral and then releasing the skis. Don't know if you use a video in the east. My student wanted to have "fun" and didn't like "tech talk". I stressed I wouldn't mention inversion, abbduction or planta flexion.

I did well enough in the skiing to pass today and I AM NOT A STRONG SKIER! I got a five on my bump run and I think the rest were sevens. I am convinced of one thing. GO THERE......LET LOOSE.....JUST SKI! No matter the task, ski it, don't pose. Think movements and motion.

My bump run on "Whiteout" wouldn't win any awards for style, however, it was athletic. I spent more time in recovery mode than a crack addict. I started laughing in the middle of it.

Our last task was medium radius carved turns. I decided to make a kamikazi/suicide stroll. I actually prereleased out of my right ski in a left turn and slid fifty yards to the examiners feet. We both started laughing. HAIL RED BULL! If one or two will make an old guy young on skis just think what three or four will do during the course of a day.

My point is this. SKI IT and HAVE A BLAST DOING IT! SMILE and laugh.....sing songs. A swede who teaches at the boat got me singing "she'll be coming round the mountain" as we did wedge christie's and the examiner thought we were insane. We were going to syncro ski them however we didn't have the nerve!

Make the day fun for the examiner. He'll be happy and you'll be happy.
post #16 of 17
Nice work, Rusty! A few of us got a bit silly at our level 2 exam and did a spot of synchro, but it wasn't during any official tasks...
post #17 of 17
Thread Starter 
Congrats!! Level 3 take hard training and determination. Back here in the East under the new format we must take a 2 day skiing exam before you even get to the teaching. I passed may level 2 skiing last spring. The skiing part for me was the easy part. The teaching will be much harder for me. I just need to relax and do what I know.2 more weeks to go and hopefullt I will have earned silver!!

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