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What are WC race wins payouts??

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 

I was just wondering if the WC has a money list?? Something like the PGA tour, I was curious what each racer makes relative
to their place finish.
John

post #2 of 17
It's a bit difficult to find, but there's some info on the FIS website:

http://www.fis-ski.com/data/document/przr09.pdf
http://www.fis-ski.com/data/document/priz10.pdf

CHF = Swiss Francs (slightly less than 1 dollar)
I'm sure everyone knows the symbol for Euros, as well as that they're somewhere in the neighborhood of a buck and a half.
post #3 of 17
Man, that's like Bode just made his beer money on the FIS payout. 
post #4 of 17
Yeah, it's kind of stunning when you compare it to the paydays in other sports....

They do get sponsor money. Well, some of them do.
post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 
I don't fully understand the payouts. The sport is huge in over seas.  I would have guessed 7 figures for the season leaders.
John
post #6 of 17
This is "just" money paid for podium positions by organizer. No other income is involved into these numbers. They are not all that big, but when you think FIS was just 15-20years ago still thinking money spoils sport, and there shouldn't be any money awards, even this is not all that bad.
But yes, let's face it... skiing is small sport. If you look at big picture, noone really cares about skiing. There's around 10-15 countries on World where they have well organized ski federation etc. So money can't be compared with money involved into NBA, NHL, soccer, Formula 1, tennis or golf... unfortunately.
post #7 of 17
Giuliano Razzoli (Italy) got 135.000€ for his 1st place in Zagreb!
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post

Man, that's like Bode just made his child support money on the FIS payout. 

Fixed it for you sir
post #9 of 17
 I wonder why the top women made more then the top men?  $400K isn't bad for Lindsey Vonn.
post #10 of 17
The difference is that Vonn won everything...the wins among the men were much more spread out...



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 I wonder why the top women made more then the top men?  $400K isn't bad for Lindsey Vonn.
post #11 of 17
 makes sense.  so are the payouts the same per event for men and women?
post #12 of 17
Thread Starter 
 For some reason the payout seem to be equal?? Which is odd considering mens events get more attention? But really both seem low to me compared to most sports.
John
post #13 of 17
Wonder what the associations pay their athletes as a stipends and for results? 

Even in the 60's the French teams were being paid by the government, they were all paid as customs officials.   Does the USSA have a program for our team?  Is there a cash reward for a world championship or an Olympic medal?  Is our compensation program comparable to the Europeans? 

How about from the equipment manufacturers?
post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by Temple67 View Post

 For some reason the payout seem to be equal??

The men's total payout is somewhat bigger. If you look at the list by event (for this season - second link above), it shows totals at the bottom. Some pay in Swiss Francs, other in Euros, so you've got to convert, but the totals, in dollars, based on today's exchange rates, are:
Men: $4,024,793
Women: $3,176,464
post #15 of 17
They are low.  It's still a situation, as in most individual sports, where the top dogs do really well, the people in the middle, just so-so, and the people outside the middle just get by, if that.  But consider that the top skiers may make a few million a year, whereas Roger Federer and Tiger Woods make many millions per year.  And Jake Zamansky, the #4 U. S. skier on FIS points, has to cough up $35,000 per year just to train with the USST...



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Originally Posted by Temple67 View Post

 For some reason the payout seem to be equal?? Which is odd considering mens events get more attention? But really both seem low to me compared to most sports.
John
post #16 of 17
Don't get me started. The USST's compensation plan is, if you're an A team member, you get all your expenses taken care of.  Other than that, you have to cough up for your training.  For example, Jake Zamansky, who is the #4 US GS skier on FIS points, has to come up with $35,000 out of his own pocket just to train with the USST. 

If you're good enough (e. g., Bode and Lindsey Vonn), both of whom ski for Head, you can get something like a half million plus a year from them...and I think they have a base salary plus bonuses for wins, WC titles, Olympic medals, and so forth.  I also believe that the hosting resorts themselves cough up cash prizes to the top finishers on a per race basis, but you might want to check on that...



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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

Wonder what the associations pay their athletes as a stipends and for results? 

Even in the 60's the French teams were being paid by the government, they were all paid as customs officials.   Does the USSA have a program for our team?  Is there a cash reward for a world championship or an Olympic medal?  Is our compensation program comparable to the Europeans? 

How about from the equipment manufacturers?
post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by Yogghi View Post

Giuliano Razzoli (Italy) got 135.000€ for his 1st place in Zagreb!

Actually that was the total for the entire field. He got 50.000 € . Not exactly chump change.

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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post

Wonder what the associations pay their athletes as a stipends and for results? 

Even in the 60's the French teams were being paid by the government, they were all paid as customs officials.   Does the USSA have a program for our team?  Is there a cash reward for a world championship or an Olympic medal?  Is our compensation program comparable to the Europeans? 

How about from the equipment manufacturers?

I raced for Rossignol, Marker and Nordica for a couple years '76 - '77, '77 - '78. The second year I had an agreement that classified me as an 'independant contractor' and provided for 'compensation' in annual payments plus 'incentive' payments. There was an entire schedule of payments for placing in the CanAm, Europa Cup, World Cup and Championships and Olympics. Additionally, there were was a 'Seeding Bonus' for achieving FIS points that placed me in the first or second seed in each event. The US Team would receive the money and then distribute it to me as 'broken time payments'; money in lieu of the revenues I might have otherwise made from employment.

I traveled and trained extensively with the US Team in 1977. As far as I know, all expenses were paid by the US Team; I know I didn't kick in anything and I don't think my parents or club did either. Twice to Europe, once to South America.

So the US Team only covered expenses, to my knowledge, while the equipment sponsors provided the 'payment' I would receive.

I haven't a clue how it is now other than what I've read here. Frankly I'm a bit surprised at the lack of financial support for those that aren't on the A Team.
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