Well gang, it seems that the "give them what they want " is the popular vote.
There might be some problems with that though. At large ski resorts, and small ones too, there is the issue of law suits against the instructor and the ski resort itself, brought against them by the student. Even though the skier told the pro that he or she wanted to ski the bumps, black diamonds, double diamonds etc, and was told by the pro that in their opinion, they weren't ready for that challenge, it didn't matter to them. And then the skier gets hurt and says that the pro had them in inappropriate terrain, and the pro said nothing to them about not having the ability to ski that kind of terrain. Sure, the skier told a fib, but that doesn't matter. It's a he say she says.
If someone gets hurt in our class, we must fill out an accident report. ( I hate paper work! except of coarse, writing post to this forum.
) One of the questions on that report is, " was the student skiing in appropriate terrain to their ability? " If I say, " Well no, but the student wanted to ski that terrain. " I would find myself standing in front of the ski school manager trying to explain myself.
I'm not leaning towards not giving the student what they want, I do my best. But still, I have to be careful. Pierre eh!, sometimes I'll get some young stud that says to me, " I want to go jump off a cliff " and the guy is a level 6 or so. So I tell these brain dead bullet proof supermen that I'll show them where the cliffs are, and they can go jump off them AFTER CLASS.
That, of coarse is the extreme. It doesn't happen very often, but does, every once in awhile.
More often it's a level 5-6 that wants to ski black diamond bumps or go down a double black diamond. With a skier at that level, I will try to explain to them that I think they need more work on there skills and maybe in easier bumps first, but if they still want to jump into a black bump run, then lets go. Usually, after that first run they realize that maybe I was right, and we go to more appropriate terrain. With the skiers that want to ski a double D at that level, I won't do it. If they got hurt, I would be in BIG trouble.
So, it's a tough call sometimes. Again, I do my best to give them what they want within reason. But if I put someone in over their heads because that's what they wanted, two things can happen. One, they might get hurt, and you already know how I feel about paper work.
and two, the student goes away with a bad taste in their mouths that they didn't learn anything.
So the dilemma is still there. I say give them what they want within reason, and explain to them that this approach may not be the best way to achieve their goals. If they listen and say " Okay, what do you think is the best way to learn how to ski the steep bumps? " ) that's great! But if they don't think so and won't listen, them hope that maybe one run down a mine field will knock a little sense into them, and they will go along with what you had in mind.--------Wigs
P.S. Thanks you guys for your responses.
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