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post #91 of 100
Thread Starter 
 I never even considered insurance. I figured you'd be covered under the university's policy. 

I wasn't planning on buying gates. But if you rent them ad hoc, you don't set them up yourself? They will actually set them up and take them down for you? I was hoping to learn how to set courses and fix gates so I could show others on the team the same thing.
post #92 of 100
Aren't gates pretty pricey?  Like $35 per pole plus the banner?
post #93 of 100
Thread Starter 
 To rent from the mountain's race team or buy? heh

I guess Reliable Racing will tell me. 


Any suggestions all for approaching dealer reps and companies for sponsorship opportunities?

EDIT: I assume you mean to buy: http://reliableracing.com/category2.cfm?category=760&header=BREAK-A-WAY/GATES/ACCESSORIES  
post #94 of 100
If the area supplies the gates and lanes(with markings for race in progress) they "will probably" have the appropriate liability insurance. But worth asking about.
You and/or team members may be able work with the area to set gates for the course and also operate the timer.
The one University I am familiar with negotiates the lift tickets(race course equipment and coaches included), and transportation only.
The personal accident medical insurance is covered by the student sometimes using a policy by the university or sometimes by the student's personal policy. The liability insurance is included in the rental of the race lane w/ timer and gates from the area.  
Students also get credit hours for a Phys. Ed. course.  It is totally up to the university to keep tract of the students required attendance and progression.
Coaches are furnished by the area, and I believe the required certification (for the coaches) must be approved by the University prior to starting the program.
I am not fimilar with details of the contract, but it is a yearly contract and changes every season depending on a number of variables.
post #95 of 100
Thread Starter 
 Thank you for all that!

Any other tips?

And any idea how much they pay for all that? 
post #96 of 100
Oh man, I wish I was still in college.

I'd take a year off and go SKIING!  :D
post #97 of 100
I'll check with Loveland on lane pricing and requirements. Although the transportation costs from Boston may break the budget, I know our prices are fair! Seriously, this should give you a good idea and a negotiating reference point. They are off today so tomorrow I may have an answer.

Lots of liablity can be dealt with by signing a waiver and being a member of some organization, such as USSA, that provides competitor coverage. USSA does require individual insurance to become a member. You may find other organizations that will provide similar protection or already be covered by the Athletic Dept.

If you go the 'set your own course' route, you'll need cordless drills (18v +) with bits 32mm - 35mm about 50 cm long for drilling holes for gates, gate wrenchs (at least 2 to make it go quickly, plus they break)

Get sponsors and get them to donate equipment (alum that have ski stores, ski companies, ski areas etc.). Have events with door prizes, raffles and auctions. Nothing like a good party to loosen the wallet.

Talk to alum that were racers. If you run into Peter Carter, say hi for me. He was a Harvard racer back in the 70's.
post #98 of 100
Thread Starter 
 Hey,

Thanks! Please get back to me ASAP - I am meeting with Athletics on Friday and giving a presentation.

We currently have 14 interested in our club. Most have no race experience, but three (including me) are seasoned racers.

Do you think we should set our own gates and just rent the gates? Or should we let whatever race foundation set the gates and not worry about it?

Also, do you think training with Master's during the week is a good idea for us? Most of those interested in the Club are under 21, so they can't race in Master's, right? But we could certainly train with them, no? On weekends, it looks like we are going to go to a rent a bus, go to a big mountain, and train. Probably Whiteface because even though it's farther than Sunday River and Killington, NYSEF is very reasonable in fees (though I haven't gotten a quote from any mountain yet). And we may be able to secure a private home near Whiteface. And then we'll sell the empty seats to affiliates of the university and outside members for a slight markup to put into a fund for us for the year and if any money is left over, the following year.

I'm trying to get creative here.

I'll be contacting alumni as part of our fundraising. I'll see if I can find Peter.
post #99 of 100
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Originally Posted by mbp67 View Post

 Hey,

Thanks! Please get back to me ASAP - I am meeting with Athletics on Friday and giving a presentation.

We currently have 14 interested in our club. Most have no race experience, but three (including me) are seasoned racers.

Do you think we should set our own gates and just rent the gates? Or should we let whatever race foundation set the gates and not worry about it?

Also, do you think training with Master's during the week is a good idea for us? Most of those interested in the Club are under 21, so they can't race in Master's, right? But we could certainly train with them, no? On weekends, it looks like we are going to go to a rent a bus, go to a big mountain, and train. Probably Whiteface because even though it's farther than Sunday River and Killington, NYSEF is very reasonable in fees (though I haven't gotten a quote from any mountain yet). And we may be able to secure a private home near Whiteface. And then we'll sell the empty seats to affiliates of the university and outside members for a slight markup to put into a fund for us for the year and if any money is left over, the following year.

I'm trying to get creative here.

I'll be contacting alumni as part of our fundraising. I'll see if I can find Peter.

Sounds like you are doing a great job. Congrats!  As for buying gates, etc. don't worry about that. Where ever you set your training base to be, they will take care of it. Wachusett would probably be your best option and they are very friendly to racers. Growing up in NY, I can confirm that NYSEF is wonderful and they have great coaches. If you need a contact there let me know, I have a few.


Actually they just lowered the age for Masters to 18 http://www.ussamasters.org/ (except for Regionals and Nationals.) That would get you some gate timed practice and against some REALLY good competition. Contact Gary Colwell at NE Masters for information (zepco AT msn.com.)

I'd recommend everyone in your group get a competitor's license, that way you can enter any J1-J2 race as a Senior. Tri-State has tons of events in the Boston area.
post #100 of 100
Check with your bus company before deciding to the final location, sometimes there can be issues.
like bus sizing capacity available vs need. 
like crossing state lines.
overnite lodging for driver's.
probably more

Area pricing is not fixed for a club, its depending....................what you are getting and/or asking for.
examples
fixed days paid in advance
certified coaches (what level)
number of skiers per coach
the day of the week
the amount of time for the race lane
just lotsa things determine pricing at the area
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