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post #31 of 37
Way too much wieght on the inside ski. Almost looks like your are about to sit on your uphill ski!

You are clearly pushing off the downhill ski, rather than releasing into the new turn. Let your skis cross under your body.
post #32 of 37
I think it is very difficult to critique a static photo. This shot:

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shows great form. But skiing is a dynamic, fluid sport requiring constant adjustments to account for snow condition, terrain, speed, slope and many other things.

I think your form looks great. The last few shots are bit over exagerated because you were basically posing for the camera.

But let's look at Hermann's sequence that some have held as a standard. If I apply the same logic many have applied to your sequence here is my critique of one of the greatest skiers - now this is not my personal opinion of his skill, but merely an application of the other "tips and critiques" that have been given on the board.

Photo from Epic's training pages.
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Ok, so we see the subject entering the turn. I think his boots are too stiff because it appears he has his weight to the back. He is out of balance because his outside hand is too wide. As he enters turn one, we see too much break at the waist - probably due to poor alignment of his boots and the boots being too stiff. His line is a bit off, causing him to skid his turns a little at the beginning of the turn. He has too much hip angulation and causing his weight to move back. Now he is over rotating with his body noted by his inside hand dropping back. He also has too much of an A-Frame here. In the seventh image of the montage 5 his form completely breaks down. His body is twisted related to his skis and he is throwing his skis out and into the next turn. Again we see excessive body lean - not good - he should be much more upright - also, we see the dreaded A-Frame again - obvisiously this guy is close to being a really good skier, but until he gets rid of that A-Frame he'll only be a level 5 or 6. Oh, and his outside leg is bent way too much.

Now we see him sort of Park-and-ride the turn. Way too much lean and hip angulation. He has WAY too much weight on the uphill ski - looks like he is about to sit on his uphill ski. Later in the turn there is not enough weight on the uphill ski. As he finishes the turn we see a pronounced A-frame and way too much bend at the waist. His inside foot is too far foward as well. If he wants to be a good skier, he'll have to work on pulling that uphill foot back so his feet are more even.

I think his poles are too long too. This is causing him to rais he hands too high between turns.

So what's my point? Skiing is a dynamic dance. At any given time you are adapting to the mountain and conditions and shape of the turn.

MC, your skiing looks great - In any given photo, anyone with a critical eye will be able to point out 10-20 things that could be changed. Move your hand 1" further forward, Move your uphill knee 1 degree further in, narrow your stance by 2", etc. However, that photo represents 1/500th of second in time. Your skiing looks great.

[ November 02, 2002, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: Bullet ]
post #33 of 37
Thanks, Bullet, this needed to be said. I stayed out of this thread because I didn't see anything wrong with his skiing, it looked good to me. 90% of skiers anywhere would be very happy if they could ski like that.

post #34 of 37
Bullet and Ott,

I second what you guys have said and must point out a few weeks ago I said I thought MC's skiing looked great.

I think we all fall into the trap of not wanting to offer criticism. The guy did ask for a critique! Perhaps we owe it too him?

Bullet your photo's show an important difference that I think is worth noting. I fall into the same trap as MC and that is a tendency to get a little static.

I think it is the very athleticism of Maier that we should all examine. The pictures capture the ability to through oneself down a hill as opposed to getting locked on edge.

I ski every once in a while with a guy from this area named Tony Sears. Many of you from Colorado know Tony and are aware of his tremendous ability. For years he has talked to me about the difference between standing "on your skis" vs. standing on your skis against the hill". I think MC and I tend to get locked into a position "against" the hill. Better skiers are on an edge and off the edge more quickly and flow down the terrain. They are on their skis.

My 00.02 cents!
post #35 of 37

That's a great, great thing you said:

the difference between standing "on your skis" vs. standing on your skis against the hill".
It fits with something Jim Weiss told me that has stuck: ignore gravity and just drive both skis around the circle.

I don't think anyone has failed to pay homage to mc's skill at skiing! The thing that makes this sport endlessly fascinating is that there is no upper limit.

It's allure is its difficulty. Perhaps this is the Elephant in the Living Room that the ski industry tries to ignore with its incessant efforts to make skiing easy. Can't turn a silk purse into a sow's ear. (I think I got that mixed up on purpose--bias is showing.)

Coaching is just raising awareness. "Consider this." The athlete decides what to do with it.
post #36 of 37

Again, I simply repeated it, my friend and sometimes mentor Tony Sears explained the idea to me. I must say I am just now coming to understand what it means.

Tony is a very exciting skier to watch. He can really "tip em". He is also a very good technician/teacher.
post #37 of 37

Saying that this person is in a snowplow is a bit harsh, IMHO. Slightly wedged would be more like it. And the comment about counter rotate, in what is obviously a larger radius turn ??????????? But I think your observations on the most part are pretty good. As for your statement about Rusty Guy getting a clue. IMHO, he is much more informed and is more qualified to pass judgment on technical skiing and how to correct problems that a skier may have than you.

MC, you are a good skier. There are lots of good skiers out there. But everyone of them have there little quirks. I think that all the feedback in general here will help you make betters turns. The best thing that I would say to do is get forward a bit more. It does look like in the photo that you are in the back seat mostly at the end of the turn. This really delays your ability to get into the next turn dynamically. When a skier is back in the boot, they are back on there skis, and that would contribute to the causes of the wedge. Sort of a supporting platform thing. If you can get yourself forward, I think that the wedge will go away. And again, this is nitpicking. From what I see, you’re a good strong skier. And BTW, I like where you hold your hands! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] --------------------------------Wigs
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