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Belleayre in Catskills was good on 12/28

post #1 of 14
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There were about 3 to 4 inches of new snow, so it was pretty good at Belleayre in the Catskills, NY yesterday, 12/28.

It was my first ski day this winter so I was just determined to get skiing, no matter the conditions.  I was expecting bad to fair conditions and was nicely surprised.  They had  few black diamonds open, some were a bit icy though, but others not too bad.

The blue trails and greens were very crowded, though.  

 
post #2 of 14
Good to hear that conditions are decent in the Catskills.  I plan on going up on NY Day and the weather looks promising.  We went a couple of years ago on New Years and crowds were small and we got about 6" of new snow.  My goats are on the fedex truck out for delivery today:)
post #3 of 14
How crowded are we talkin?  I was thinking about taking my 9 year old up there tomorrow, but he's not going beyond blues yet and I just block from behind when its crowded.

If it's a zoo, I may just pass. Not sure if there will be anyplace within a day trip of NJ not too crowded this week.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by RatherPlayThanWork View Post

How crowded are we talkin?  I was thinking about taking my 9 year old up there tomorrow, but he's not going beyond blues yet and I just block from behind when its crowded.

If it's a zoo, I may just pass. Not sure if there will be anyplace within a day trip of NJ not too crowded this week.
If you get to Belleayre early in the morning tomorrow I would recommend parking at the upper Overlook lodge and taking high speed quad to intermediate trails Roaring brook and Onondaga trails.  At about 10am when it gets more crowded I would take lift 7 and get off at midstation and go west on Tomahawk crossing over to the Tomahawk lift.  On the Tomahawk lift get off a midstation and ski the many blue trails from mid station down to the Tomahawk lift.  There will be a lot less people skiing the west side off the Tomahawk lift. To get back to the lodge take the expressway trail back to the Overlook lodge.

When you get your lift ticket check the ski report if intermediate trail Deer Run is open off the top.  I know they are making snow on Deer Run.  If its opened you can take the Tomahawk lift to the top and ski it.  Deer Run is an awesome intermediate trail that is never crowded. 

Side note -  the experienced families will park near the bottom of the Tomahawk lift and use lawn chairs in the parking lot to get their boots on and obtain their lift ticket at the bottom of Tomahawk lift.  This avoids the lodge completely and gets you on the slope faster. 
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
 Great info, Catskills!  Also, to answer RatherPlay's question, no, it wasn't a zoo.  And as Catskills says it's not crowded on many blues.  I just found a lot of people near the lodge beginner lift and surrounding slopes.  But even there the lift lines were not that long.  And other parts of the mountain had no real lift lines. So I say go!
post #6 of 14
Come on up to WIndham.  Plenty of open terrain and crowds have been very managable.  Im here til 1/3 lemme know if anyone is coming up.
post #7 of 14

what size goats do you have coming?  i have my 194's up here at windham, but haven't taken them out yet.  i bought them more for powder days or at least days when there is more then a loose granular surface.  i'm very curious how you think they ride at belleaire if you take them out.  personally i feel like they are going to be difficult on the hard packed NE surface and ice.  maybe i'll give them a try tommorow.

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I have 183s and got them primarily for when I go out west and have some RX8s for east coast skiing.  The forecast looks like we may get some snow, so I'll be bringing them along also.  I've heard they are pretty good on groomed surfaces as well as powder, so I'm anxious to test that out, especially since I'm not as good a skier as most on thsi board.
post #9 of 14

Wow Gotama 194's in the catskills! I would love to hear a report on their performance on eastern hardpack.

I use my Stockli Scott Schmidt 188's (89 waist) at hunter and just love them. I thought I would use them for ungroomed heavy snow but they work on groomed pretty well. I tried the 101 waiste schmidt pros last year at vail and thought they were great. Skied them in moguls and they were awesome. Not a dedicated mogul trail but an ungroomed trail with skier formed moguls on them. (pretty big ones too) If only east coast moguls were soft like that.
 
Also skied some groomed blacks out there on the 101's and they tore it up. Surprised at how well they carved. The thing that took a little getting used to was not so much skiing on the fatter skis but control on the lift line.....they are a bit much to snowplow.

I don't know much about the Gotama's but it is pretty amazing the carvability of some of these fat skis.

Going to Hunter on Monday 1/4 if anyone will be there.

Darkstar, how would you rate Windham compared to Hunter? I've been skiing there for nearly 20 years and only skied hunter.



 

post #10 of 14
yup.  i think i prob should have gone with the 186 goat looking back, esp since most of my skiing is done in the easy.  i just got very carried away with the rocker and skiing shorter, etc.  however, i'm 6'2 215lbs so the decision was tough.  but looking back, i thnk i'd be more comfortable on the 186 skiing the terrain i typically do.

re: windham, the snow has been great here and the crowds very managable.  i have about 8-9 days there so far this year and all have been good.  i would def recommend making the little drive over and checking it out.  the new owners have really done some nice things.  i'll be heading out in a few hours, i'll report back with today's conditions.
post #11 of 14
Darkstar, anxiously awaiting your update.  We j ust got our lift tix for Windham on Liftopia and saved $13.  Let me know if you'll be around Friday and want to meet up.
Gregg
post #12 of 14
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Darkstar, how would you rate Windham compared to Hunter? I've been skiing there for nearly 20 years and only skied hunter.



 

I know the question is not intended to me but I could add a little bit of info. Hunter tends to have more bumps and steeper terrain with a more expert feel. Windham is mostly groomers, less steep, and intermediate and has a more family friendly rep compared to Hunter. In my experiences, both have about the same big crowds but both are great mountains but I like Hunter more as its also bigger. You should still give Windham a shot for a day.
post #13 of 14
Belleayre was nice yesterday. Not as crowded as I had expected. Though we were one of the "masses" who arrived at 10. The only lines were at the one main quad.

Do you guys really ski Goats at these mountains without fresh snow?

I have a pair of Prophet 90's that I never get to take out since I have better skis for hardpack.
post #14 of 14
Thanks for the input Skiking.  That was my impression of the two even though iI hve never skied at Windham.  We'll be going to Windham since most of the group is either beginners or haven't skied ina few years.

RPTW, I just got my goats delivered and I expect to use them mainly for use out west.  I've heard they are also good on groomers (relatively speaking) and am dying to try them out anywhere.  We got an inch or two here today and the forecast shows a few inches this afternoon in the catskills.  Hoping they've underestimated for once and we get some good coverage.
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