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post #31 of 52
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Hey guys...yeah don't listen to me. I'm just an angry Irish/ Italian kid from Boston. I have no idea what I am talking about.=P

But really I didn't start an argument it was snofun and some other dude...I just posted those vids cause I found them and thought they were cool....

Anyway here is the update about my trip. Just talked to my Uncle. He found a wicked good deal on a condo located near Brighton and Solitude. Its one of those things were you can literally ski to the lift. However I'm not sure if its located right on either of the mountains. So basically we will defiantly be skiing Solitude and Brighton. I guess both of the mountains connect or something so... Also we plan on skiing Snowbird too, that place just looks way to good to pass up. And one of my cousins has actually skied there and he said it was great too... Now here is the problem if we stay at this condo we obviously don't have to drive to ski at Solitude or Brighton, but if we ski at Snowbird we will. So my question is are there any shuttles or buses that can be taken or will we have to rent a car??? We would really like to save the money and not rent a car =/  Anyway thanks so much for all your input

Oh and we are planning on going the start of February...I think the 4th
post #32 of 52
232, its sort of a chore getting from Big Cottonwood to little cotton wood. Its like about an hour by car or 2 hours by bus.
post #33 of 52
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I skied Brighton yesterday for the first time in 11 years.   Very nice snow, and pretty good coverage on the blue cruisers.  The double blacks are closed for the most part, mainly due to lack of snow.  Most mogul fields had some crud in the crevices.  I imagine it's the same for all the other SLC resorts.  Very pleasantly surprised at the improved lifts, and not overrun by boarders like I had imagined.  Still the closest thing to a Mom+Pop ski resort in the area ('cept Pow Mtn perhaps).  You could do worse . .. . we chose it since it had the most base snow of all the resorts at the time.  It's got the highest base elevation of all the Salt Lake resorts.

So.....Snowbird + Alta for sure, then it gets tough, but I'd add Brighton to the mix.
 
(taken march 2009) Near top of Snake-Creek express lift

picture at Brighton taken Mar 2009 near top of Snake-Creek express lift, Brighton does have quite abit of terrain to offer
post #34 of 52
It's hard to go really wrong with any place in Utah!!!  Well, if your traveling with a Boarder then Alta and DeerValley are out, unfortunately. If I couldn't pick Alta or DV, I'd go with these:

Snowbasin
Snowbird
Brighton

Personally, I think Park City blows, the lifts are old and slow and poorly organized, locker rooms are small and crowded.  It seems to cater to the locals and not the day skiers.

I'm gonna stay away from the East vs. West discussion, your really cannot compare the two. 

If you go to Snowbasin, be sure to take the Allen Peak Tram at the top of the John Paul Express quad...the view is fantastic, then ski down the beginning of the mens downhill.
post #35 of 52
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If you go to Snowbasin, be sure to take the Allen Peak Tram at the top of the John Paul Express quad...the view is fantastic, then ski down the beginning of the mens downhill.

+1

Then after you try the top of the men's DH, go back up the tram and hike out to No Name.  This is some of the best continuous vertical skiing on the mountain.
post #36 of 52
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Umm, where exactly was it that you saw me describe myself as a "western expert".

Reading comprehension appears to be a challenge for you - I said "I've met MANY who describe themselves as "advanced experts" from the least coast who come home with their tails between their legs after seeing what expert terrain is REALLY like,"

now - you allege to have much experience in UT, sooooo, how many self described "experts" have you seen flailing even around Mineral Basin when there's 3 feet of fresh? I've seen plenty, including me for the first few years I went after it. Are there great NE skiers - you bet - there's also the majority who think that they can do Ovation or some sickly berm at Okemo that's rated black that they have the skilz.

I belonged to a couple of ski clubs for many years in the NE, and can remember MANY club "experts" who couldn't handle that nasty powder, or those "frighteningly steep black (and blues), or those way wide skis, or those gnarly (Steamboat ) glades, and so on and so on.

And I love those that can slide down boilerplate and consider themselves "core". Yeah, you can do boilerplate at Stowe, that means exactly what when you're standing at the top of Couloir Extreme or in the Palisades saying "well, if I can do ice and crap conditions at Stowe....gawd.

Oh yeah, I have a little over 40 YEARS of least coast experience (you?), and the last time I skied there was 10 days ago.

Oh - and is that a ski-off challenge - what are you - Epic's version of Highway Star? Pathetic.
 

mineral basin is a tourist trap!! most of the good skiers at the bird only ski off the tram.

also not really a "ski off" we mostly like have fun with it. 

If you can ski ice and crap conditions at stowe on the double blacks you could easliy handle the doubleblacks out west. easily!!! 

 I have never been on either of those runs you mentioned but could skis 99 percent of the lines at the bird including stuff off the forbidden zone, hanging bowl, christmas tree on baldy, get serious chutes, Chamoix Chutes. In fact just a short month in stowe has made me wanting to go back to a place where I could practically triddle my thumbs and still rock at skiing it. east coast skiers and by skier I mean people who ski nearly every day are better than west coast weenies.
post #37 of 52
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mineral basin is a tourist trap!! most of the good skiers at the bird only ski off the tram.

EXACTLY!, Yet I personally have seen many a self proclaimed "eastern experts" completely over their heads in it (literally and figuratively), tucking their tails and heading for the safety of a nice groomer back over on the other side.


If you can ski ice and crap conditions at stowe on the double blacks you could easliy handle the doubleblacks out west. easily!!! 

Apparently you need to try some better double blacks, maybe like the ones I mentioned, or there's plenty more I can come up with in short order. Also keep in mind that Stowe is reasonably accurate in their ratings - so look at some dweeb who does southern VT (up to MRB / da Bush), This poor twit thinks he knows what he's doing on double blacks from Flatton, Nokemo, K-Mart etc, then finds himself on Blues that'll kick his butt.

There was some gaper not long ago that called Sundown's bumps "almost world class". A little knowledge is a dangerous thing / a mind is a terrible thing to waste - pick one..

 I have never been on either of those runs you mentioned

In fact just a short month in stowe has made me wanting to go back to a place where I could practically triddle my thumbs and still rock at skiing it. east coast skiers and by skier I mean people who ski nearly every day are better than west coast weenies.

Wait. What? You're REALLY saying that the least coasters who get some ev
eryday are better than their western counterparts who likewise do the daily deal?
 
post #38 of 52
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wow...
post #39 of 52
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Ok guys listen...I learned my lesson about trying to talked to people about this subject, so I'm not getting involved. However, when I get back from Utah I am going to tell you exactly what I thought about it. I will compare it to east coast skiing, without out any bias towards the east. Ok so if you guys want to go on blabbing like a bunch of bratty little kids...be my guest.
post #40 of 52
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However, when I get back from Utah I am going to tell you exactly what I thought about it. I will compare it to east coast skiing,
 
No need.

Just post some video of you from some of the areas that BinPA mentioned, and the answer will be completely clear, as well as the "advanced expert" self ranking.
post #41 of 52
u may have to ski PCMR day one because they do offer night skiing-- might as well ski as long as u can day one- even if its just PCMR.  thats my plan anyway. close to where im staying too.
post #42 of 52
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No need.

Just post some video of you from some of the areas that BinPA mentioned, and the answer will be completely clear, as well as the "advanced expert" self ranking.



 


  Okay listen there is no comparison to the east and west. They are completely different. As far as my ranking of myself, I consider myself a solid advanced skier, aspiring expert. FYI the guy skiing of the cliff drop in my profile pic is me...I really don't appreciate you telling me what I can and cannot ski, and how good I am. I don't even know you...who are you too judge how good I am and what I can ski?? Also my definition of an expert is someone who loves to ski regardless of terrain or fancy gear. Oh and I would like too see some videos or photos of you skiing(considering the ones you have posted are not anything special), and see how good of a skier you are...you definitely don't have the right attitude thats for sure...
Edited by skier232 - 12/30/09 at 1:47pm
post #43 of 52
I don't think Deer Valley is worth the TIME or the MONEY.  I have skied them both, and the Canyons is a much better choice. I have to agree with Snowbird, the Canyons, and Snowbasin.  Did you know that at Snowbasin you can ski the actual 2002 Olympic GS run?  Awesome!
post #44 of 52
And don't let any of these guys "rattle" you.  We have just as many expert skiers on the East Coast as the West Coast.  Sounds like your one of the East Coast experts.  Hope you enjoy Utah - It's my favorite place to ski!
post #45 of 52
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No need.

Just post some video of you from some of the areas that BinPA mentioned, and the answer will be completely clear, as well as the "advanced expert" self ranking.


 

I would rather him not ski any of the runs I mentioned. Lucky non are on a public map of snowbird.
post #46 of 52
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 .I really don't appreciate you telling me what I can and cannot ski, and how good I am.I don't even know you...who are you too judge how good I am and what I can ski??

Also my definition of an expert is someone who loves to ski regardless of terrain or fancy gear. Oh and I would like too see some videos or photos of you skiing(considering the ones you have posted are not anything special), and see how good of a skier you are...you definitely don't have the right attitude thats for sure...

I never told you what to ski, or how good you are, I just told you that there's a complete difference between east and west expert terrain, and having NEVER seen real stuff, to take it easy in evaluating what double blacks at somewhere real is like. You described yourself as an "advanced expert" - now's the time to sack up and show it....

Your version of expert is truly mystifying. I love to ski - I also love (and have lots of good gear) - Am I then a double expert?

Note that I've never said I was great. Yes, I can do blacks and double blacks at most of the legendary resorts (fyi, the right side of Canyons is NOT DD, no matter what the signs say, so if you want some ego stroking, that's your place) - I have skied with people who you see in the MSP and TGR videos (do a search). I consider THEM as experts with me as a humble onlooker.

My attitude is better than your spelling and grammar......

Originally Posted by SkiFox View Post

I don't think Deer Valley is worth the TIME or the MONEY.  I have skied them both, and the Canyons is a much better choice. I have to agree with Snowbird, the Canyons, and Snowbasin.  Did you know that at Snowbasin you can ski the actual 2002 Olympic GS run?  Awesome!


Snowbasin had the 2002 Mens and Womens downhill, not GS. If he took some advice and did the Quick Start to DV (if he did the flights right, the timing is prior to blackouts), and went to Imperial Basin at DV, (I know, I know, no knuckle draggers allowed) he'd be better off.
than the Canyons (and I really like the Canyons).
post #47 of 52
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I never told you what to ski, or how good you are, I just told you that there's a complete difference between east and west expert terrain, and having NEVER seen real stuff, to take it easy in evaluating what double blacks at somewhere real is like. You described yourself as an "advanced expert" - now's the time to sack up and show it....

Your version of expert is truly mystifying. I love to ski - I also love (and have lots of good gear) - Am I then a double expert?

Note that I've never said I was great. Yes, I can do blacks and double blacks at most of the legendary resorts (fyi, the right side of Canyons is NOT DD, no matter what the signs say, so if you want some ego stroking, that's your place) - I have skied with people who you see in the MSP and TGR videos (do a search). I consider THEM as experts with me as a humble onlooker.

My attitude is better than your spelling and grammar......
 

Really cause I'm pretty sure you said,"I've met MANY who describe themselves as "advanced experts" from the least coast who come home with their tails between their legs after seeing what expert terrain is REALLY like, not some ridiculous sign at Flatton, so be careful getting in over your head"......... It seems you were telling me what I was going to be able to ski and not ski.

BTW The only reason I said me and my party are "advanced experts" is because I don't want someone suggesting some crappy little mountain. I want to ski the best that Utah has to offer.

I think that's great that your a good skier and that you love skiing out west. I'm a good skier too and I love skiing in the east and I'm sure I will love it in Utah too. Do we have to hold it against each other...no...but really don't say that east coast skiing sucks. Have you ever skied a Double Black diamond or skied the back bowls at Smuggs??? Have you ever hiked and skied Mittersill???  If you have then you know what real east coast skiing is....Becasue I will tell you right now real East coast skiing is not skiing at "Flatton"....

Hey I cant help living on the east coast...its where I ski and if you think it sucks I don't give a damn...
 
Also I apologize that my "spelling and grammar" isn't as sophisticated as a 40+ year old adult.......

Bottom line I really really love to ski....I don't care where the hell it is, if its in my backyard with half an inch of snow on the ground. I love it...If you think the same way then bro I high five you for that

Now since this thread has obviously been hijacked by you and other people I would like to get back to the original topic =P

So here is the update on my trip!!!

Me and my Dad will be taking a flight out of Logan on February 4th while my Uncle and cousin will be taking a flight out of Burlington VT. My Other cousin is going to be coming out of NY city. We are all going to meet up in Chicago where we will connect flights( Unfortunately Untied doesn't have a direct flight from Boston to Salt lake City) When we get to Salt Lake City we are going to rent a car and will be staying at a condo on Solitude. Literally on the mountain, so we will be able to ski to the lifts. Anyway so we will be skiing Solitude, Brighton, and Snowbird. We will obviously have to drive to Snowbird but I think it will be worth it. So yup its all organized....Cant wait to go!!!!
post #48 of 52
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And don't let any of these guys "rattle" you.  We have just as many expert skiers on the East Coast as the West Coast.  Sounds like your one of the East Coast experts.  Hope you enjoy Utah - It's my favorite place to ski!


Hey man thanks alot!!! Im sure I will love it!  
post #49 of 52
232 good for you! Hope the weather comes togethaer and you get some epic conditons.
post #50 of 52
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(taken march 2009) Near top of Snake-Creek express lift

picture at Brighton taken Mar 2009 near top of Snake-Creek express lift, Brighton does have quite abit of terrain to offer




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Really cause I'm pretty sure you said,"I've met MANY who describe themselves as "advanced experts" from the least coast who come home with their tails between their legs after seeing what expert terrain is REALLY like, not some ridiculous sign at Flatton, so be careful getting in over your head"......... It seems you were telling me what I was going to be able to ski and not ski.

BTW The only reason I said me and my party are "advanced experts" is because I don't want someone suggesting some crappy little mountain. I want to ski the best that Utah has to offer.

I think that's great that your a good skier and that you love skiing out west. I'm a good skier too and I love skiing in the east and I'm sure I will love it in Utah too. Do we have to hold it against each other...no...but really don't say that east coast skiing sucks. Have you ever skied a Double Black diamond or skied the back bowls at Smuggs??? Have you ever hiked and skied Mittersill???  If you have then you know what real east coast skiing is....Becasue I will tell you right now real East coast skiing is not skiing at "Flatton"....

Hey I cant help living on the east coast...its where I ski and if you think it sucks I don't give a damn...
 
Also I apologize that my "spelling and grammar" isn't as sophisticated as a 40+ year old adult.......

Bottom line I really really love to ski....I don't care where the hell it is, if its in my backyard with half an inch of snow on the ground. I love it...If you think the same way then bro I high five you for that

Now since this thread has obviously been hijacked by you and other people I would like to get back to the original topic =P

So here is the update on my trip!!!

Me and my Dad will be taking a flight out of Logan on February 4th while my Uncle and cousin will be taking a flight out of Burlington VT. My Other cousin is going to be coming out of NY city. We are all going to meet up in Chicago where we will connect flights( Unfortunately Untied doesn't have a direct flight from Boston to Salt lake City) When we get to Salt Lake City we are going to rent a car and will be staying at a condo on Solitude. Literally on the mountain, so we will be able to ski to the lifts. Anyway so we will be skiing Solitude, Brighton, and Snowbird. We will obviously have to drive to Snowbird but I think it will be worth it. So yup its all organized....Cant wait to go!!!!


Skier232,
Your picks are goooood!
The picture I posted taken in Brighton, you can see part of a trail over at Solitude, (right side of picture in the distance kind of behind a large tree). There is a Sol-Bright access trail that connects Brighton and Solitude (it is located off the Milly Express lift take Backdoor and Evergreen trails). Never been on Sol-Bright but it might be a way home after a day of skiing at Brighton. (ask a patroller the conditions, I believe you are BC (outside boundries) when on that access route).
You got all of maybe 15 miles to drive over to Snowbird (down BCC and Up LCC) and well worth the trip. Just listen to the canyon road reports and you will be fine.
I won't tell you to have fun, cause your gonna have to much fun.
post #51 of 52
Snowbird and Solitude (Honeycomb) I would advise (after Alta).

Best time? Of course when it snows. Unfortunatly one cannot tell. Did a lot of research because I come all teh wat from Europe. The weather is to unpredictable. Last year we had great days in APRIL!! Dumm luck. Check out the snowreports of the last years for ya self at www.alta.com I believe.

Enjoy!

Dirk
- and don't forget your snorkel :-)

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Hey everyone!  So I'm most likely going to be going out to Utah sometime in the next months too do some skiing. Probably between the times of mid January to mid late February. My question is, which are the best resorts too ski at??? I'm going to be going with my Dad, and my Uncle and two cousins from VT. We are all advanced expert skiers, so we are looking to ski some more challenging terrain( we are going out west for the skiing not to sit in a fancy lodge)  Also we all really like glades and obviously want to ski a lot of above tree line, and that sweet Utah Pow!! Also I was looking at some resorts and it seems that some reserve certain areas for back country. This we would also be interested in. Anyway some of the resorts i was looking at that i thought might be good are...

Snowbird

Brighton

Park City

The Canyons

Deer Valley


Unfortunately we cant go too Alta because one of my cousins snowboards so...

We are going for only 5 days ( 2 of the days are spent traveling) we plan on skiing 3 days so I would like to narrow it down to at least 3 resorts...

Please let me know if you have any suggestions or comments
 Thanks!!!
post #52 of 52
Fixed it for ya :-)
http://www.alta.com/pages/snowhistory.php


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Originally Posted by dirksuchy View Post

Snowbird and Solitude (Honeycomb) I would advise (after Alta).

Best time? Of course when it snows. Unfortunatly one cannot tell. Did a lot of research because I come all teh wat from Europe. The weather is to unpredictable. Last year we had great days in APRIL!! Dumm luck. Check out the snowreports of the last years for ya self at www.alta.com I believe.

Enjoy!

Dirk
- and don't forget your snorkel :-)
 


 
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