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Head Joe/Supermojo 105 vs. Elan 999

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 I'm champing to buy soft, damp ski about 95 - 105 mm wide under foot.  From years of trying different brands and scrutinizing reports in Epic, I've narrowed it down to 181cm Head Joe's (a.k.a. SuperMojo 105) or 185cm Elan 999's.  (I figure that 177mm Dynastar Pro Riders are a little stiffer than I want, although I felt like a hero when I demo'ed the Mythic Riders last year.)

 

Unfortunately, one of the recent changes in the ski industry seems to be the disappearance of demo skis.  There is no chance of demo-ing these boards in the PNW.

 

Regarding the Heads:  I love the super-damp, snow-hugging feel of the Head Monster 82's I've had for several years, although I'm ready for a softer ski whose tips can stay up better.  The Joe/Mojo's apparently have a large sweet spot and are really good all-round, much like the Mojo 94's I liked last year.

 

Regarding the Elans: Probably the other dampest brand of ski, with a soft, round flex, but still has good edge grip.

 

Has anyone actually skied both?  Can you give any advice?

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I have a pair of supermojo's from last year, in the 191cm length, and if your looking for a soft somewhat forgiving ski, this ski isn't for you, maybe the 181cm is a bit softer, but these are some of the gnarliest sticks i have ever ridden, you can't push them hard enough!!!!!  After saying this I bet those new Joe's are way sick, I love my skis!!!!!  I have also skied the 999's and they tend to be a bit softer, especially in the 185cm, Elan makes some sweet sticks too, two biggest differences in the ski are the turning radius and the construction, Head utilizes the cap construction and Elan uses sandwich..... I would lean towards the Head's, but its all about what YOU are looking for in a ski.
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 I didn't ski the Heads but the 999 was a sweet big turn type ski. 
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Originally Posted by crudmaster View Post


 

Unfortunately, one of the recent changes in the ski industry seems to be the disappearance of demo skis.  There is no chance of demo-ing these boards in the PNW.

 

Not true!  We have both the 999 and 1010 in our demo fleet. 
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I haven't skied the Supermojo 105, but one of those is a softer ski, and one is a super burly 2x4 that requires about 40mph of speed before it turns. I think that may be the Monster 104.

The 999 is a bit softer than the Mojo 94, and in my opinion, a bit higher performer.  It doesn't have a small turn radius, but it bends up nicely and is an excellent crudbuster and soft bump ski. Very versatile, and stable, as you can ski it in a pretty long length without it beating you up, due to the softer flex.  It is also laterally stiff.  The Mojo isn't all that responsive and a little too damp for my taste. The 999, with soft early rise tip, just floats really well in softer snow, and has a bit more pop in the tail.  It could be a great Western 1-ski quiver, especially if the skier skis in bumped-out terrain and bigger turns, and doesn't deal with ice too much.  In the longer length, it is super smooth.  Overall, this is one of my favorite wider all-mountain skis, as it works well for someone my weight and is super stable. The Mojo 94 is a nice ski, but it is realy damp and could use a little more oomph, IMO.  Mostly, the 999 is a narrower (and slightly softer) version of the 1010: basically the same layup in a different width and sidecut.  I have a pair of 999's set up for AT use, as they fit the bill well for a light traveling ski that works in any condition.
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Sigh.   Well, no Elan nor Head demos anywhere between Baker and Timberline, anyway.  I've even asked Gully, the Elan rep.

I won't be going to Oregon any time soon, and am about to buy 999 woods or mojo 105's soon on eBay.  I know I'll like each of them, but am still indecisive.

I still have fond memories of how my Volant T3 Epic gave the smoothest ride over rough snow of any ski ever, and it seems that the 999s have the most similar flex in a wide ski.  On the other hand, the Heads, as you say, are damper, and thus are more Volant-like in that way.

Thanks for the help.  I've been a fan of your ski analysis for years.   And keep your eye out for my robin's-egg-blue ski pants if you get up to Crystal.
Edited by crudmaster - 12/29/09 at 10:37pm
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And some final words from Dawgcatching:

   Old 999 Woods are very soft: I like the current 999 much better. I feel they are a bit more stout and less likely to get bounced around in crud: also better on groomers. I always thought the 999 was a fairly average ski, whereas the new 999 is a big upgrade. I like the direction Elan is going with their wider stuff these days.  I really like Head's stuff as well, although it can be a bit too stiff for my taste
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