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post #61 of 81
 I ski at the land of soft closures,,,

Never once ducked a rope out west and never would but on east coast mountains its way different story for the most part exceptions being the slides at whiteface.
post #62 of 81
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post

 I ski at the land of soft closures,,,

Never once ducked a rope out west and never would but on east coast mountains its way different story for the most part exceptions being the slides at whiteface.

You've poached the slides @ whiteface? Must've been awesome!
post #63 of 81
Do any other states besides CO have state laws about ducking ropes?
post #64 of 81
I believe he meant that the exception to poaching in the East is the slides because of the avie danger associated with them being closed.
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You've poached the slides @ whiteface? Must've been awesome!
post #65 of 81
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by steveys View Post

You obviously haven't seen ski patrol on TRU TV (not reality, ACTUALITY!!).  Tru tv is ACTUALITY, thus meaning it isnt acted/staged!!

 



 


OK, you got my attention. Para-police types or what. They really do run the gamut.
post #66 of 81
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Haven't seen it. explain?
 
GREAT movie. I've watched it about 5 times so far.
post #67 of 81
Poached Lower K27 @ Hunter once. Pretty much my only good poach ever. It was decent, couple of weeds sticking out but a good 6 inches of pow. Didn't get caught so thats good and had a decent, but not great, run.
post #68 of 81
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by skiking4 View Post

Poached Lower K27 @ Hunter once. Pretty much my only good poach ever. It was decent, couple of weeds sticking out but a good 6 inches of pow. Didn't get caught so thats good and had a decent, but not great, run.
 


How funny. Your avatar shot is identical to mine, but much less coverage. nice.

I always ask myself, If I get caught would it be worth it? (assuming you don't lose a pass) That dictates the conditions be pretty freekin' good.
post #69 of 81
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CR0SS View Post

Do any other states besides CO have state laws about ducking ropes?
 


A lot of posts are about skiing lines first that don't involve any rope ducking. Ambiguity is a beautiful thing.
post #70 of 81
Davluri,

So you're braging about ducking a rope and violating resort protocal.  Great.

Stay in SquallyWood.

In WY, if you duck a rope, it's against the law - up to 6 months in jail, $300 fine, and loss of skiing privledges.  Oh, and you can die also.

Case and point, here's a photo of the backside of Targhee.  For perspective, Jamie Pierre's 230'+ huck was off the cliff just left of the line labeled "Brattain's Couloir" (second blue label from the left).

post #71 of 81
Yes but most of us are smart enough to realize you can duck ropes some places and not in others. I know of no states in the East that have laws of that magnitude. None of us aren't talking  about ducking a rope to huck a 230' cliff. You still should have some idea of the terrain your poaching before you go in.

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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post

Davluri,

So you're braging about ducking a rope and violating resort protocal.  Great.

Stay in SquallyWood.

In WY, if you duck a rope, it's against the law - up to 6 months in jail, $300 fine, and loss of skiing privledges.  Oh, and you can die also.

Case and point, here's a photo of the backside of Targhee.  For perspective, Jamie Pierre's 230'+ huck was off the cliff just left of the line labeled "Brattain's Couloir" (second blue label from the left).











 
post #72 of 81
Thread Starter 
I don't believe I was bragging about poaching. I was sharing stories for entertainment.

But it might be a lot more fun to call someone out and bang on them even though you know nothing of the situation.  Sounds like you get a little charge out of imagining someone dying for not agreeing with you.

And the point of the photo is?

Yesterday I did a climb to ski my favorite line. The patrol had that area of the peak closed. I skied another, went to the shack and inquiired aabout the closure, learned who was making the call and why, and went skiing. Then I see that others ducked the rope and got the line. It was closed because there were consequences (cliffs and rock at the bottom of the fall line). Don't agree with that thinking, but Squaw is extra cautious this year, a consequence of some really bad luck last season, and I don't duck a rope, and I don't make up my own rules for convenience. And it was so visable as to be disrespectful of patrol.
post #73 of 81
I'll give you the "I don't believe I was bragging....", but CAPS means you're yelling.  Not sure how to take it anyway else.

Calling you out - well, let's just agreee to stop that line here.

I don't and won't get a kick out of someone dying who doesn't agree with me.

The point of the photo is to try and education many of the uninformed who ski at Targhee (or in the Tetons for that matter) that ducking a rope up here is very, very dangerous and can get you killed.

Nice last paragraph.  No really, I mean a very well written paragraph and a very well thought out point of view.

HB
post #74 of 81
post #75 of 81
I believe it was stated earlier in the thread that unless you know what the terrain is on the other side of the rope, yes it is dangerous to duck the rope particularly in the West. There are a few areas in the East that are dangerous to do so as well, but ducking the rope in an area like Targhee where there are cliffs is a boneheaded move that none of us were advocating. 

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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post

I'll give you the "I don't believe I was bragging....", but CAPS means you're yelling.  Not sure how to take it anyway else.

Calling you out - well, let's just agreee to stop that line here.

I don't and won't get a kick out of someone dying who doesn't agree with me.

The point of the photo is to try and education many of the uninformed who ski at Targhee (or in the Tetons for that matter) that ducking a rope up here is very, very dangerous and can get you killed.

Nice last paragraph.  No really, I mean a very well written paragraph and a very well thought out point of view.

HB
post #76 of 81

FYI

http://www.localnews8.com/global/story.asp?s=11854575

Sorry for the loss.

I will verify his exit point and then post.

HB


Edited by HarkinBanks - 1/21/10 at 6:07am
post #77 of 81
If he was skiing Blackfoot, he either ducked a rope or skied past "Closed" signs. 



N.Y. man dies outside Targhee boundaries
 

By Cory Hatch, Jackson Hole, Wyo.
January 21, 2010

A New York man died of hypothermia Wednesday after he skied off the back side of Grand Targhee Resort and got lost in the South Leigh Creek area.

About 7:44 p.m. Tuesday, Edward Fitzgerald, who officials believe is 46 years old, called the Teton County, Idaho, Sheriff’s Department and told dispatchers he was skiing at Grand Targhee, had gone out of bounds and had become lost, according to a Teton County, Wyo., Sheriff’s Office statement. Officials believe Fitzgerald was from Forest Hills, N.Y., and was in Wyoming with a tour group, but his home address could not be confirmed Wednesday afternoon.

Fitzgerald called three times within a minute and, despite a poor signal, was able to tell dispatchers he had a Global Positioning System device but didn’t know how to use it. Fitzgerald also said he exited the resort after riding a double chairlift. Grand Targhee’s only double chairlift is the Blackfoot lift on the north side of the resort. 

“He called 911 and said that he’d been at Targhee and had gone out of bounds and didn’t know where he was,” Teton County, Wyo., Search and Rescue coordinator Doug Meyer said. “[Fitzgerald] was trying to get some advice on how to get out of there.”

After the initial calls, Fitzgerald was not able to re-establish contact with rescue personnel.

“We didn’t know where he was and we were hoping he was going to call back again,” Meyer said.

Search and rescue personnel from Idaho and Wyoming began coordinating a search effort with Grand Targhee ski patrollers. Patrollers found ski tracks that might have belonged to Fitzgerald about 10:55 p.m. and followed them for about an hour but eventually called off the search for the night because of avalanche concerns, rough terrain and poor visibility, according to the sheriff’s office statement. Other rescue personnel searched by snowmobile but were unable to find Fitzgerald. 

The next morning, rescue workers used the Teton County, Wyo., Search and Rescue Helicopter to search.

“At 8:45 [a.m.] we found him in the canyon unconscious and unresponsive,” Meyer said.

An automated external defibrillator did detect some slight signs of life in the form of electrical activity in the body, Meyer said.

“We gave him rescue breaths,” he said. “He was profoundly hypo-thermic.”

Meyer said rescue personnel did not use the defibrillator because its use is not advised until a patient has warmed up. Local rescue workers called for emergency helicopters from hospitals in Idaho Falls, Idaho, and Pocatello, Idaho, but those helicopters were unable to fly because of weather.

Fitzgerald was later pronounced dead at St. John’s Medical Center in Jackson. Fitzgerald died of hypothermia, Teton County, Wyo., Coroner Bob Campbell said.

Fitzgerald had no survival equipment or warm clothing and did not appear to have tried to build a snow cave, Meyer said.

Rescue workers believe Fitzgerald fell into the creek, according to the statement from the Teton County, Wyo., Sheriff’s Office.

“We’ve had several people get lost there before,” Meyer said. “It’s a hard place to get out of.”

post #78 of 81
Thread Starter 
sorry to hear that. sounds more of an error in judgement than a knowlegeable poach for freshies. HB, any point you make about safety is well taken.
post #79 of 81
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Originally Posted by nolo View Post

<snip>
. Sometimes you need to let your bad self ski. 
I think this is the best line of the thread 



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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post

FYI

http://www.localnews8.com/global/story.asp?s=11854575

Sorry for the loss.

I will verify his exit point and then post.

HB



This is sad. 
+++vibes+++

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Originally Posted by HarkinBanks View Post

If he was skiing Blackfoot, he either ducked a rope or skied past "Closed" signs. 



N.Y. man dies outside Targhee boundaries
 

By Cory Hatch, Jackson Hole, Wyo.
January 21, 2010

A New York man died of hypothermia Wednesday after he skied off the back side of Grand Targhee Resort and got lost in the South Leigh Creek area.

About 7:44 p.m. Tuesday, Edward Fitzgerald, who officials believe is 46 years old, called the Teton County, Idaho, Sheriff’s Department and told dispatchers he was skiing at Grand Targhee, had gone out of bounds and had become lost, according to a Teton County, Wyo., Sheriff’s Office statement. Officials believe Fitzgerald was from Forest Hills, N.Y., and was in Wyoming with a tour group, but his home address could not be confirmed Wednesday afternoon.

Fitzgerald called three times within a minute and, despite a poor signal, was able to tell dispatchers he had a Global Positioning System device but didn’t know how to use it. Fitzgerald also said he exited the resort after riding a double chairlift. Grand Targhee’s only double chairlift is the Blackfoot lift on the north side of the resort. 

“He called 911 and said that he’d been at Targhee and had gone out of bounds and didn’t know where he was,” Teton County, Wyo., Search and Rescue coordinator Doug Meyer said. “[Fitzgerald] was trying to get some advice on how to get out of there.”

After the initial calls, Fitzgerald was not able to re-establish contact with rescue personnel.

“We didn’t know where he was and we were hoping he was going to call back again,” Meyer said.

Search and rescue personnel from Idaho and Wyoming began coordinating a search effort with Grand Targhee ski patrollers. Patrollers found ski tracks that might have belonged to Fitzgerald about 10:55 p.m. and followed them for about an hour but eventually called off the search for the night because of avalanche concerns, rough terrain and poor visibility, according to the sheriff’s office statement. Other rescue personnel searched by snowmobile but were unable to find Fitzgerald. 

The next morning, rescue workers used the Teton County, Wyo., Search and Rescue Helicopter to search.

“At 8:45 [a.m.] we found him in the canyon unconscious and unresponsive,” Meyer said.

An automated external defibrillator did detect some slight signs of life in the form of electrical activity in the body, Meyer said.

“We gave him rescue breaths,” he said. “He was profoundly hypo-thermic.”

Meyer said rescue personnel did not use the defibrillator because its use is not advised until a patient has warmed up. Local rescue workers called for emergency helicopters from hospitals in Idaho Falls, Idaho, and Pocatello, Idaho, but those helicopters were unable to fly because of weather.

Fitzgerald was later pronounced dead at St. John’s Medical Center in Jackson. Fitzgerald died of hypothermia, Teton County, Wyo., Coroner Bob Campbell said.

Fitzgerald had no survival equipment or warm clothing and did not appear to have tried to build a snow cave, Meyer said.

Rescue workers believe Fitzgerald fell into the creek, according to the statement from the Teton County, Wyo., Sheriff’s Office.

“We’ve had several people get lost there before,” Meyer said. “It’s a hard place to get out of.”

post #80 of 81
I don't know why someone would go to a place like Targhee and duck ropes into terrain they have no knowledge of, by themselves, and without the proper gear. It boggles the mind. What is the mentality?
post #81 of 81
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Originally Posted by ecimmortal View Post

 What is the mentality?

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Officials believe Fitzgerald was from Forest Hills, N.Y
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