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Vist WC plates vs Marker WC Piston plates

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
Can someone give me a good rundown between the two? Are Marker WC Piston plates still made?

I always raced with WC Piston plates but have heard good things about Vist. Now that I'll be building up a quiver for next year, I'd like to consider the Vist plates.

Can someone give me a good review? Pro/cons? 
post #2 of 7
I have been on skis that had Vist and skis that had Marker. The Marker ones seemed to snap back a bit less while exiting a turn (the piston dampens the ski). Marker still makes plates in a 9mm thickness. They may still be making the 14mm version due to the fact that they are still stack legal on alot of skis (ie, Nordica, Blizzard, Volkl SL skis).
post #3 of 7
 I've skied both and like the Marker plate much better. I spent a day skiing Doberman GSRs in 2 different lengths both lengths mounted with each plate (so 4 different pairs) and can say for sure I liked the Markers better.
post #4 of 7
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What is the max mm plate you can have on a flat ski?

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Originally Posted by Rise To The Top View Post

I have been on skis that had Vist and skis that had Marker. The Marker ones seemed to snap back a bit less while exiting a turn (the piston dampens the ski). Marker still makes plates in a 9mm thickness. They may still be making the 14mm version due to the fact that they are still stack legal on alot of skis (ie, Nordica, Blizzard, Volkl SL skis).
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post #6 of 7
currently for FIS at all levels, 50mm total height from snow to bottom of boot sole.

flat skis are not all the same thickness, so with ski, plate, and "tuning shims" under heel and toe, you have 50mm to work with.

if you are participating in races where the FIS rules are being used for guidance, 50mm is your target, if not run what you brung.

good comments on difference between piston plates vs. vist, however there are many vist plates, not just one. and there are thousands of racers around the world skiing on vist built plates on many of the manufacturers pre mounted skis. if your ski already has a plate pre mounted by the manufacturer, i would use it. that's how the ski was designed and built. this applies to virtually all race skis being made today, with the exception of volkl, that builds and tests all of their race skis for and with piston plates.

of all the things that need to be figured out before you go out and race well, which plate you have on your ski, should only be taken into account if you have no life, no job, and a mind that will not let you relax and enjoy yourself at any waking moment

jim
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
 Well, I'll be racing Stockli again so I'll have a flat ski. Are there any Vist plates you would recommend Jim? 

Sorry, I've been out of the ski world for 6 years and am just getting back into it.
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